Anonymous wrote:PS. A landcruiser is the only thing I’d trust to do what you say you need it to do, including crossing a river.

A land cruiser especially one from the 90s would be awesome but you can always buy an aftermarket snorkel kit for other cars

H1 😁

My 2005 Subaru Forester was undefeated in the snow/mountain driving when I lived in the mountains

Subaru Forester Wilderness

PS. A landcruiser is the only thing I’d trust to do what you say you need it to do, including crossing a river.

There are very few true 4WD’s out there, most are AWD due to gas mileage requirements. If you really want one get a used Landcruiser.

Jeep or 4Runner.

My Subaru does a very steep incline up Shannondale Rd in West Virginia. Both paved and gravel. You also have to know how to drive it right for those conditions.

I need a car that can go up a mountain (25٪ incline) with a trail but not paved and no gravel. Ideally it can ford across a 15 foot wide stream that never gets more than 2 feet deep. I have 2 kids and 2 dogs ( and kayaks but a roof rack can handle that). I currently have a rav4 but it can't handle it.

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What do you mean by a “mountain” car?

What are you doing in the mountains? Do you need to cart dogs? Kids? Skis? Tow a boat?

4 Runner. 4 x 4

Anonymous wrote:We love our Subaru.

Subarus seem to be AWD. I feel like I need a 4x4
Do you often off road in your subaru?

We love our Subaru.

Not an ATV, needs to be road legal and not a jeep bc I find them to be unstable
Budget under 100k