Anonymous
07/15/2022 10:10
Subject: Widow of Mark Fleischman reveals he turned from a 'complete Atheist' to believing in God
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t like the snark here and I think OPs description was cruel and nasty (a vegetable? really?).
However, as to the general concept: I am an atheist who was raised in a very religious household, who became a secret atheist as a very young child. My family was and is very close and affectionate, and my parents remain devout. I believe it is highly likely that when I am dying, I will revert to my childhood religion. I doubt I will exactly believe in a god — I remember being skeptical very early though had no frame of reference to even explain that — but I am sure that the rituals and structure will be something familiar and probably comforting. My parents will be long gone, and I suspect that engaging with my childhood religion will be a way to feel close to them at a time when I am feeling scared and vulnerable.
That’s probably too earnest for this thread , though, and will probably make both the religious and atheist trolls who live in this forum now angry.
Don't get your hopes up and please consider that your response may seem snarky to both believers and atheists.
In religious terms, your response seems holier than thou.
You don’t understand what snark is.
Anonymous
07/15/2022 10:07
Subject: Widow of Mark Fleischman reveals he turned from a 'complete Atheist' to believing in God
Anonymous wrote:I don’t like the snark here and I think OPs description was cruel and nasty (a vegetable? really?).
However, as to the general concept: I am an atheist who was raised in a very religious household, who became a secret atheist as a very young child. My family was and is very close and affectionate, and my parents remain devout. I believe it is highly likely that when I am dying, I will revert to my childhood religion. I doubt I will exactly believe in a god — I remember being skeptical very early though had no frame of reference to even explain that — but I am sure that the rituals and structure will be something familiar and probably comforting. My parents will be long gone, and I suspect that engaging with my childhood religion will be a way to feel close to them at a time when I am feeling scared and vulnerable.
That’s probably too earnest for this thread, though, and will probably make both the religious and atheist trolls who live in this forum now angry.
Finally, a wise answer. So rare for the religion forum.
I completely understand, PP.
I'm a scientist who intellectually cannot bring myself to believe in something I can't prove, but the rituals are comforting and sometime instinctive. They fulfill a different, more primal need.
Anonymous
07/15/2022 10:03
Subject: Widow of Mark Fleischman reveals he turned from a 'complete Atheist' to believing in God
If you think this shameful and highly distasteful post makes any case for the existence of a god, you are sorely mistaken. It does quite the opposite.
It also reflects poorly on you personally and terrestrially, OP.
It also reflects poorly on you personally and terrestrially, OP.
Anonymous
07/15/2022 10:01
Subject: Widow of Mark Fleischman reveals he turned from a 'complete Atheist' to believing in God
Anonymous wrote:I don’t like the snark here and I think OPs description was cruel and nasty (a vegetable? really?).
However, as to the general concept: I am an atheist who was raised in a very religious household, who became a secret atheist as a very young child. My family was and is very close and affectionate, and my parents remain devout. I believe it is highly likely that when I am dying, I will revert to my childhood religion. I doubt I will exactly believe in a god — I remember being skeptical very early though had no frame of reference to even explain that — but I am sure that the rituals and structure will be something familiar and probably comforting. My parents will be long gone, and I suspect that engaging with my childhood religion will be a way to feel close to them at a time when I am feeling scared and vulnerable.
That’s probably too earnest for this thread, though, and will probably make both the religious and atheist trolls who live in this forum now angry.
That was how he described himself and thus wished to end his life.
Anonymous
07/15/2022 09:09
Subject: Widow of Mark Fleischman reveals he turned from a 'complete Atheist' to believing in God
Anonymous wrote:It is a comforting thought, rather than going along the atheist path of becoming fertilizer. Either belief is fine, and it really does not matter AT ALL.
Some people find the idea of becoming fertilizer comforting. It beats a fantasy of living forever in heaven with a vindictive supreme being
Anonymous
07/15/2022 09:06
Subject: Widow of Mark Fleischman reveals he turned from a 'complete Atheist' to believing in God
Anonymous wrote:I don’t like the snark here and I think OPs description was cruel and nasty (a vegetable? really?).
However, as to the general concept: I am an atheist who was raised in a very religious household, who became a secret atheist as a very young child. My family was and is very close and affectionate, and my parents remain devout. I believe it is highly likely that when I am dying, I will revert to my childhood religion. I doubt I will exactly believe in a god — I remember being skeptical very early though had no frame of reference to even explain that — but I am sure that the rituals and structure will be something familiar and probably comforting. My parents will be long gone, and I suspect that engaging with my childhood religion will be a way to feel close to them at a time when I am feeling scared and vulnerable.
That’s probably too earnest for this thread , though, and will probably make both the religious and atheist trolls who live in this forum now angry.
Don't get your hopes up and please consider that your response may seem snarky to both believers and atheists.
In religious terms, your response seems holier than thou.
Anonymous
07/15/2022 08:54
Subject: Widow of Mark Fleischman reveals he turned from a 'complete Atheist' to believing in God
It is a comforting thought, rather than going along the atheist path of becoming fertilizer. Either belief is fine, and it really does not matter AT ALL.
Anonymous
07/15/2022 08:47
Subject: Widow of Mark Fleischman reveals he turned from a 'complete Atheist' to believing in God
I don’t like the snark here and I think OPs description was cruel and nasty (a vegetable? really?).
However, as to the general concept: I am an atheist who was raised in a very religious household, who became a secret atheist as a very young child. My family was and is very close and affectionate, and my parents remain devout. I believe it is highly likely that when I am dying, I will revert to my childhood religion. I doubt I will exactly believe in a god — I remember being skeptical very early though had no frame of reference to even explain that — but I am sure that the rituals and structure will be something familiar and probably comforting. My parents will be long gone, and I suspect that engaging with my childhood religion will be a way to feel close to them at a time when I am feeling scared and vulnerable.
That’s probably too earnest for this thread, though, and will probably make both the religious and atheist trolls who live in this forum now angry.
However, as to the general concept: I am an atheist who was raised in a very religious household, who became a secret atheist as a very young child. My family was and is very close and affectionate, and my parents remain devout. I believe it is highly likely that when I am dying, I will revert to my childhood religion. I doubt I will exactly believe in a god — I remember being skeptical very early though had no frame of reference to even explain that — but I am sure that the rituals and structure will be something familiar and probably comforting. My parents will be long gone, and I suspect that engaging with my childhood religion will be a way to feel close to them at a time when I am feeling scared and vulnerable.
That’s probably too earnest for this thread, though, and will probably make both the religious and atheist trolls who live in this forum now angry.
Anonymous
07/15/2022 08:43
Subject: Widow of Mark Fleischman reveals he turned from a 'complete Atheist' to believing in God
He only wanted to believe this as he got closer to death to make himself feel better about dying. I think many people feel this way as they get older.
Anonymous
07/15/2022 08:41
Subject: Widow of Mark Fleischman reveals he turned from a 'complete Atheist' to believing in God
Anonymous wrote:The wife of the former owner of infamous NYC nightclub Studio 54 says he found religion just before dying at a Swiss suicide clinic on July 13, after a mystery illness turned him into a vegetable.
Fleischman's wife said that while her husband never wavered from wanting to go through with his assisted suicide, she did see changes in him toward the end.
'Mark used to not believe in God at all. He was a complete Atheist,' she said. 'He started to believe in God during the last few weeks. I believe in God…
'Mark came to believe that there is life after death. He made a change in his belief system about the continuation of existence.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11016165/Studio-54-owner-Mark-Fleischman-turned-complete-Atheist-believing-God-died.html
Never too late to meet God.
'Mark came to believe that there is life after death. He made a change in his belief system about the continuation of existence.' For religious people, this is enough to prove that God exists. After all, you can't find something that does not exist, right. People say they found god all the time, but rarely, if ever do you hear that people found Santa Claus or found the Loch Ness monster.
Anonymous
07/15/2022 08:29
Subject: Widow of Mark Fleischman reveals he turned from a 'complete Atheist' to believing in God
Not surprising that something that destroys your intelligence can also make you believe in god. I have no doubt that if I received a heavy blow to the head, for instance, I might start believing in angels etc.
Anonymous
07/15/2022 07:54
Subject: Widow of Mark Fleischman reveals he turned from a 'complete Atheist' to believing in God
Anonymous wrote:The wife of the former owner of infamous NYC nightclub Studio 54 says he found religion just before dying at a Swiss suicide clinic on July 13, after a mystery illness turned him into a vegetable.
Fleischman's wife said that while her husband never wavered from wanting to go through with his assisted suicide, she did see changes in him toward the end.
'Mark used to not believe in God at all. He was a complete Atheist,' she said. 'He started to believe in God during the last few weeks. I believe in God…
'Mark came to believe that there is life after death. He made a change in his belief system about the continuation of existence.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11016165/Studio-54-owner-Mark-Fleischman-turned-complete-Atheist-believing-God-died.html
Never too late to meet God.
Actually, meeting god right before you die is pretty convenient -- assuming it gives you an eternal afterlife. I wonder what religion he converted to? Obviously one that approves of assisted suicide
Anonymous
07/15/2022 07:53
Subject: Re:Widow of Mark Fleischman reveals he turned from a 'complete Atheist' to believing in God
Anonymous wrote:Vegetable is a really offensive word to apply to a human being. Plus, how does someone in a non responsive state communicate religious beliefs or the desire to commit suicide?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2022/07/13/studio-54-mark-fleischman-suicide-dies/
More about it here.
Anonymous
07/15/2022 07:28
Subject: Re:Widow of Mark Fleischman reveals he turned from a 'complete Atheist' to believing in God
Vegetable is a really offensive word to apply to a human being. Plus, how does someone in a non responsive state communicate religious beliefs or the desire to commit suicide?
Anonymous
07/15/2022 07:07
Subject: Widow of Mark Fleischman reveals he turned from a 'complete Atheist' to believing in God
The wife of the former owner of infamous NYC nightclub Studio 54 says he found religion just before dying at a Swiss suicide clinic on July 13, after a mystery illness turned him into a vegetable.
Fleischman's wife said that while her husband never wavered from wanting to go through with his assisted suicide, she did see changes in him toward the end.
'Mark used to not believe in God at all. He was a complete Atheist,' she said. 'He started to believe in God during the last few weeks. I believe in God…
'Mark came to believe that there is life after death. He made a change in his belief system about the continuation of existence.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11016165/Studio-54-owner-Mark-Fleischman-turned-complete-Atheist-believing-God-died.html
Never too late to meet God.
Fleischman's wife said that while her husband never wavered from wanting to go through with his assisted suicide, she did see changes in him toward the end.
'Mark used to not believe in God at all. He was a complete Atheist,' she said. 'He started to believe in God during the last few weeks. I believe in God…
'Mark came to believe that there is life after death. He made a change in his belief system about the continuation of existence.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11016165/Studio-54-owner-Mark-Fleischman-turned-complete-Atheist-believing-God-died.html
Never too late to meet God.