Anonymous wrote:I just read the article and it doesn’t say anything about URMs. With your post you may be inadvertently making the author’s point for him.

Who are the targets of “diversity efforts”? URMs (and 1st Gen).

I will say that among doctoral programs, EdD's are generally less respected, in that the research requirement is less rigorous (their journals also tend to set a lower bar). This is true of many fields though (including Physical Therapy, Nursing, Management/Policy).

It is all relative.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait I read your link and I don't see your subject line claim supported: where does it say *URM* become teachers because they are less talented?

Look at the inset text in the first paragraph: He takes aim at diversity efforts in higher education and says people in those position have education degrees because they are “easy” and “you don’t have to know anything”

From the embedded Channel 5 link:

"In colleges, what you hire now is administrators…. Now, because they are appointing all these diversity officers, what are their degrees in? Education. It's easy. You don't have to know anything."

Uh no. It doesn't say anything about URMs. It says Diversity Officers (who by the way, are so often white that I've seen a hilarious meme about paint samples known as "trustworthy whites" being who make up diversity officials) are education majors and as a result, dumb.

Do you folks ever tell the truth. The link says “diversity efforts” and references “public school teachers” as being low performing in the text above and the discussion below. You need to link to a discussion of “diversity officers” because this is not in the linked text.

I just read the article and it doesn’t say anything about URMs. With your post you may be inadvertently making the author’s point for him.

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Anonymous wrote:Athletes and Legacies too

100% about athletes. All the top athletes at my T10 school (that's also known for being big with NCAA football & basketball), were one of 3 easy majors: communications, marketing, exercise science.

At my school it was geography.

The authors rationale: education majors have lower SATs but higher GPAs than STEM majors.

Now, this ignores or fails to consider a number of factors. For example, the fact that their are many non-education majors besides STEM— no mention of how GPAs stack up against humanities majors, fine arts majors, business majors. It also ignores the fact that pre-med and engineering are weed out environments and grades are intentionally low to force a certain percent of kids out at many colleges. Or, that to pass STEM classes, you must be good at STEM. But you can be a great English teacher without being strong in STEM. So basically, dumb supporting argument.

He does take the opportunity to strongly imply that Jill Biden isn’t that bright.

Anonymous wrote:Athletes and Legacies too

100% about athletes. All the top athletes at my T10 school (that's also known for being big with NCAA football & basketball), were one of 3 easy majors: communications, marketing, exercise science.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait I read your link and I don't see your subject line claim supported: where does it say *URM* become teachers because they are less talented?

Look at the inset text in the first paragraph: He takes aim at diversity efforts in higher education and says people in those position have education degrees because they are “easy” and “you don’t have to know anything”

From the embedded Channel 5 link:

"In colleges, what you hire now is administrators…. Now, because they are appointing all these diversity officers, what are their degrees in? Education. It's easy. You don't have to know anything."

Uh no. It doesn't say anything about URMs. It says Diversity Officers (who by the way, are so often white that I've seen a hilarious meme about paint samples known as "trustworthy whites" being who make up diversity officials) are education majors and as a result, dumb.

Anonymous wrote:Wait I read your link and I don't see your subject line claim supported: where does it say *URM* become teachers because they are less talented?

Look at the inset text in the first paragraph: He takes aim at diversity efforts in higher education and says people in those position have education degrees because they are “easy” and “you don’t have to know anything”

Athletes and Legacies too

Wait I read your link and I don't see your subject line claim supported: where does it say *URM* become teachers because they are less talented?

/end thread

Racist people say racist things that are premised upon lies, white people who AREN'T racist hear them often enough to accept them as true. The world spins on, the rich screw everyone and white people continue to sheet downward on the society lessers.

Thanks to Trump, it's now ok for conservatives to say what they think without the faux apology let alone resignation. Why is anyone surprised that the head of a bastion of conservatism is racist?

The President of Hillsdale College recently says that URM students become education majors because these majors are “easy” and “you don’t have to know anything”. He also said that public school teachers are trained in “the dumbest part of the dumbest colleges”. Fact check: 75% of teachers are white, and almost 75% are women. But let’s not let facts get in the way of stunningly racist, classist and sexist comments, when the National Review is cheering him on.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/larry-arnn-is-right-about-education-majors/

Do you agree with him? Are out public school teachers low performing dimwits who can’t hack it doing anything else? Would you send a kid to Hillsdale knowing this is their attitude towards URM (and white women, who are the vast majority of teachers?) Would you hire a teacher trained at Hillsdale, knowing this is their attitude towards education managers?

I vote that Larry Arnn be assigned a group of 1st graders from a Title 1 school, told to teach them for a year via DL, and be blamed if they don’t make academic and SEL and progress. What a tool.