I'm under the impression that UCLA is known world-wide, because of football (basically, they get recognition from being on TV). And also in Asia where they have a strong presence.

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Anonymous wrote:as an immigrant who knows a lot of foreigners i find NYU and northwestern kinda out of place here. I don't think there is that much name recognition for these.

NYU is fine. Certainly similar to Northwestern or Berkeley in prestige. Particularly in Asia and for those in finance, it is prestigious.

Northwestern is definitely more prestigious than NYU. Berkeley, too, especially on the West Coast.

Anonymous wrote:as an immigrant who knows a lot of foreigners i find NYU and northwestern kinda out of place here. I don't think there is that much name recognition for these.

NYU is fine. Certainly similar to Northwestern or Berkeley in prestige. Particularly in Asia and for those in finance, it is prestigious.

as an immigrant who knows a lot of foreigners i find NYU and northwestern kinda out of place here. I don't think there is that much name recognition for these.

NYU is not even T25

Anonymous wrote:Seems like relevant info for people who might consider studying or working or living internationally...

Not really helpful info. It’s very general and lumps the world together.

Also, who cares about prestige? Yuck.

Is it one person on this list serve who keeps posting over and over about school prestige and rankings? So tiresome

Seems like relevant info for people who might consider studying or working or living internationally...

Anonymous wrote:Who cares? Really. Enough with the prestige porn. Let it go.

Agree. It really is a sickness.

Anonymous wrote:Who cares? Really. Enough with the prestige porn. Let it go.

+1. Why does this person keep posting lists?

The rest of the world is not monolith. I’ve been very surprised by, for example, how deeply knowledgeable south Asians are about American STEM program reputation.

yes sounds right.

Yes, they are the most recognized. I don't have a dog in this fight, but I acknowledge that. I also know you can have a good education elsewhere.

Who cares? Really. Enough with the prestige porn. Let it go.

Someone else sent me this, which I'm pasting here:

I stumbled across a Forbes article titled "Presidential Cabinets Have Been Dominated By College Elites Long Before Joe Biden And Donald Trump. Why That’s A Problem" yesterday, and I made note of this paragraph:

"Bower-Bir coded the colleges these senior appointees attended as being either “elite” or “common.” The elite schools included the eight universities in the Ivy League (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Pennsylvania, Harvard, Princeton, Yale) plus 17 others determined through commonly understood academic groupings and a scientific survey of the American public (Duke, Georgetown, U. Chicago, MIT, Johns Hopkins, Cambridge, London School of Economics, Oxford, Vanderbilt, Notre Dame, Boston College, Boston University, Carnegie Mellon, New York University, Northwestern, Stanford and U. California, Berkeley). “Common” schools were simply everyplace else."

Additionally, the UK government implemented earlier this year its "high potential" immigrant program by giving 2-year open work visas for everyone graduating with an undergrad or grad degree from a pre-selected group of universities. Here are the American ones:

California Institute of Technology
Columbia University
Cornell University
Duke University
Harvard University
Johns Hopkins University
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
New York University
Northwestern University
Princeton University
Stanford University
University of California, Berkeley
University of California, Los Angeles
University of California, San Diego
University of Chicago
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
University of Pennsylvania
University of Texas at Austin
University of Washington
Yale University

Here are the universities that appear on both lists, and these are the universities that BOTH the American public AND people outside of America think of as the most prestigious:

Six universities in the Ivy League:

Harvard University
Yale University
Princeton University
Columbia University
University of Pennsylvania
Cornell University

Eight universities not in the Ivy League:

Stanford University
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Duke University
University of Chicago
Johns Hopkins University
Northwestern University
University of California, Berkeley
New York University

Feel free to discuss.