Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 10:32     Subject: Re:Should MCPS be sued too?
Student outcomes should not be dictated by race or social economic status. Yet there are huge disparities when groups are broken out and even compared school by school.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 10:27     Subject: Should MCPS be sued too?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm going to give a serious answer to an unserious question - there are school districts that have failed so badly that they require state receivership. I don't know if Baltimore City PS is one of those systems, but MCPS certainly is not.

We're talking about a system that routinely produces National Merit Scholars, C-SPAN documentary winners, and Rogeneron winners.

Moreover, to build a case you need to show not just individual schools with issues, but an entire system. OP might not like the fact that kids get until the end of the quarter to submit assignments but it's not a secret corrupt rule - it's just the grading policy.

As for attendance, if OP's school is bad at taking attendance, that's a problem with OP's school, not the system. My kids' schools are fine.


I completely agree with this assessment. It may not look like it from your vantage point, OP, but MCPS is one of the best large school systems in the nation.
I certainly do not agree with everything they do, indeed I'm quite upset with a few of their directions, notably their discrimination against Asian students in magnet selection. But to be fair and objective, their overall instructional record is a very good one.

(Also, MCPS employs an army of highly-paid lawyers. Good luck going after them, as parents of special needs children have found out to their dismay... one of the things I don't like about MCPS!)



Oh, I know! Asian students only make up 60% of the magnet while making up 15% of the county population. It's so unfair!


That was true before the lottery but now it's random for CES and MS, but good luck proving that's unfair. The HS process is race-blind and still majority Asian.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 10:13     Subject: Should MCPS be sued too?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm going to give a serious answer to an unserious question - there are school districts that have failed so badly that they require state receivership. I don't know if Baltimore City PS is one of those systems, but MCPS certainly is not.

We're talking about a system that routinely produces National Merit Scholars, C-SPAN documentary winners, and Rogeneron winners.

Moreover, to build a case you need to show not just individual schools with issues, but an entire system. OP might not like the fact that kids get until the end of the quarter to submit assignments but it's not a secret corrupt rule - it's just the grading policy.

As for attendance, if OP's school is bad at taking attendance, that's a problem with OP's school, not the system. My kids' schools are fine.


I completely agree with this assessment. It may not look like it from your vantage point, OP, but MCPS is one of the best large school systems in the nation.
I certainly do not agree with everything they do, indeed I'm quite upset with a few of their directions, notably their discrimination against Asian students in magnet selection. But to be fair and objective, their overall instructional record is a very good one.

(Also, MCPS employs an army of highly-paid lawyers. Good luck going after them, as parents of special needs children have found out to their dismay... one of the things I don't like about MCPS!)



Oh, I know! Asian students only make up 60% of the magnet while making up 15% of the county population. It's so unfair!
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 10:13     Subject: Should MCPS be sued too?
Comparing MCPS to inner-city Baltimore schools -- how absurd. Go spend a day in an inner city Baltimore school, OP, see how it compares in real life.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 10:11     Subject: Should MCPS be sued too?
Anonymous wrote:Baltimore City Public Schools is being sued for defrauding tax payers. https://www.baltimoresun.com/education/bs-md-crump-city-schools-suit-20220706-b3zaf3sn2vfcjdjzmvxqsfd5hm-story.html

Should MCPS also be sued? Attendance record keeping has been abysmal at my child’s school. Grades mean nothing and students received 50% for not doing assignments. The net result is that students are being denied a quality public education and students have gaps from the lower standards.


All the kids I know are doing great. Not sure what the problem is.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 09:44     Subject: Should MCPS be sued too?
09:38 again. If you want to sue for something, you'd better make sure you have an absolutely air-tight case and tons of funds from a deep-pocketed organization.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 09:38     Subject: Should MCPS be sued too?
Anonymous wrote:I'm going to give a serious answer to an unserious question - there are school districts that have failed so badly that they require state receivership. I don't know if Baltimore City PS is one of those systems, but MCPS certainly is not.

We're talking about a system that routinely produces National Merit Scholars, C-SPAN documentary winners, and Rogeneron winners.

Moreover, to build a case you need to show not just individual schools with issues, but an entire system. OP might not like the fact that kids get until the end of the quarter to submit assignments but it's not a secret corrupt rule - it's just the grading policy.

As for attendance, if OP's school is bad at taking attendance, that's a problem with OP's school, not the system. My kids' schools are fine.


I completely agree with this assessment. It may not look like it from your vantage point, OP, but MCPS is one of the best large school systems in the nation.
I certainly do not agree with everything they do, indeed I'm quite upset with a few of their directions, notably their discrimination against Asian students in magnet selection. But to be fair and objective, their overall instructional record is a very good one.

(Also, MCPS employs an army of highly-paid lawyers. Good luck going after them, as parents of special needs children have found out to their dismay... one of the things I don't like about MCPS!)

Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 09:37     Subject: Re:Should MCPS be sued too?
Suing is a method of last resort to highlight and address unethical and discriminatory practices within a school system. Sometimes it’s necessary to improve the outcome of students.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 09:34     Subject: Re:Should MCPS be sued too?
When someone digs a little deeper, the MCPS skeletons will be uncovered. The achievement gap between special populations have plagued MCPS for decades.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 08:59     Subject: Should MCPS be sued too?
I'm going to give a serious answer to an unserious question - there are school districts that have failed so badly that they require state receivership. I don't know if Baltimore City PS is one of those systems, but MCPS certainly is not.

We're talking about a system that routinely produces National Merit Scholars, C-SPAN documentary winners, and Rogeneron winners.

Moreover, to build a case you need to show not just individual schools with issues, but an entire system. OP might not like the fact that kids get until the end of the quarter to submit assignments but it's not a secret corrupt rule - it's just the grading policy.

As for attendance, if OP's school is bad at taking attendance, that's a problem with OP's school, not the system. My kids' schools are fine.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 08:50     Subject: Should MCPS be sued too?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Baltimore City Public Schools is being sued for defrauding tax payers. https://www.baltimoresun.com/education/bs-md-crump-city-schools-suit-20220706-b3zaf3sn2vfcjdjzmvxqsfd5hm-story.html

Should MCPS also be sued? Attendance record keeping has been abysmal at my child’s school. Grades mean nothing and students received 50% for not doing assignments. The net result is that students are being denied a quality public education and students have gaps from the lower standards.


I’m a parent too. I make sure my kids are in school. I make sure they understand the importance of a good education and emphasize that while grades don’t matter, they should always do their best. I make sure they study. I ask them questions about their day. I help them if they have homework questions. It’s not MCPS’s job to do that-it’s mine. I’m the parent. MCPS absolutely does their part. I do mine.

Do your job.

No. No one should be suing MCPS. Parents should be parenting their kids.


Parents like OP want an education handed to their children on a silver platter, with no effort on their part. Otherwise they think they have a good legal case!!! Unreal. Don't waste your breath on these lazy parents, PP.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 08:49     Subject: Should MCPS be sued too?
Anonymous wrote:Sure. Go for it. Even more resources will go to legal defense than to teacher and support staff pay. Seems like a great idea!


Yes! The Board of Education loves hiring more lawyers. They already have a dozen and would love some more. It's their mission to just hire lawyers. It's more fun than running a school system.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 08:47     Subject: Should MCPS be sued too?
Anonymous wrote:Baltimore City Public Schools is being sued for defrauding tax payers. https://www.baltimoresun.com/education/bs-md-crump-city-schools-suit-20220706-b3zaf3sn2vfcjdjzmvxqsfd5hm-story.html

Should MCPS also be sued? Attendance record keeping has been abysmal at my child’s school. Grades mean nothing and students received 50% for not doing assignments. The net result is that students are being denied a quality public education and students have gaps from the lower standards.


I’m a parent too. I make sure my kids are in school. I make sure they understand the importance of a good education and emphasize that while grades don’t matter, they should always do their best. I make sure they study. I ask them questions about their day. I help them if they have homework questions. It’s not MCPS’s job to do that-it’s mine. I’m the parent. MCPS absolutely does their part. I do mine.

Do your job.

No. No one should be suing MCPS. Parents should be parenting their kids.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 08:05     Subject: Should MCPS be sued too?
Sure. Go for it. Even more resources will go to legal defense than to teacher and support staff pay. Seems like a great idea!
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 07:58     Subject: Should MCPS be sued too?
Baltimore City Public Schools is being sued for defrauding tax payers. https://www.baltimoresun.com/education/bs-md-crump-city-schools-suit-20220706-b3zaf3sn2vfcjdjzmvxqsfd5hm-story.html

Should MCPS also be sued? Attendance record keeping has been abysmal at my child’s school. Grades mean nothing and students received 50% for not doing assignments. The net result is that students are being denied a quality public education and students have gaps from the lower standards.