Anonymous wrote:no one is entitled to an acceptance

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This is what some of these parents simply don't understand. Their kid might have the grades and scores needed for a given school, but they may be lacking in other areas. Yet they *still* complain bitterly, as if their kid was entitled to admittance.

It could also indicate that the green were hooked, such as athletic recruits. Our HS naviance has oooked like this for smaller LACs with not a ton of students applying/admitted in the first place, and the green checks for the most part are recruits.

Forgot about the top 30, after that it gets better

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Anonymous wrote:I was just looking at a sub 15% acceptance school and saw few greens in a sea of red. What surprised me were the reds to the far right of the scattergram.

Most competitive schools reject 70-90% of students with perfect/near-perfect scores.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/04/02/perfect-act-sat-scores-dont-mean-admission-to-top-universities/
https://admissionsight.com/1600-sat-score/
https://theconversation.com/youre-not-going-to-get-accepted-into-a-top-university-on-merit-alone-87985

This is so depressing. We aren't even talking about an Ivy here.

Anonymous wrote:I was just looking at a sub 15% acceptance school and saw few greens in a sea of red. What surprised me were the reds to the far right of the scattergram.

Most competitive schools reject 70-90% of students with perfect/near-perfect scores.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/04/02/perfect-act-sat-scores-dont-mean-admission-to-top-universities/
https://admissionsight.com/1600-sat-score/
https://theconversation.com/youre-not-going-to-get-accepted-into-a-top-university-on-merit-alone-87985

no one is entitled to an acceptance

I was just looking at a sub 15% acceptance school and saw few greens in a sea of red. What surprised me were the reds to the far right of the scattergram.

One of my kids was denied by a school that was a total safety for him because he never finished the application process. He was a music major and needed to audition but had better options by the time the date for that school came around. In that colleges’ case - and they differ in how they handle music admissions - not completing the process was a denial. He could have withdrawn his application but just didn’t bother.

Could be a change in grade trends - like a kid who got straight A's in 9th/10th grade and struggled in 11th.

Anonymous wrote:Class of ‘21’s admission cycle.

This is one possibility, assuming the OP's scattergram represents many years. Past Naviance sea-of-green-checks was not a reliable indicator for the future, over the past two admission cycles, due to the uncertainty brought by test optional policies.

A couple of other notes, we cannot tell from looking at a scattergram data point whether that person submitted that score. Maybe they submitted the other score (ACT vs SAT) or maybe they submitted no score.

Scattergrams seem more helpful indicators of what GPAs were accepted rather than what GPA/score combinations were accepted, with all the usual caveats about GPAs not being standardized. For individual data points, toggle the scattergram between unweighted and weighted, just for more info.

Class of ‘21’s admission cycle.

Could have not done supplementals or not done them well, poor recommendation. Something like that.

Maybe a blank optional essay

Yes, I would guess bad references. Maybe, an extremely late application to a rolling-admissions school.

When looking at Naviance, I notice sometimes there's a red X (denied) surrounded by green checks (accepted). Why would that be? Is it when they applied, later when all spots were filled? Or is it something they didn't like? Bad reference?