Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The rest will follow Columbia 's lead and decline USNews. Columbia has the clout.

Uh this is not something new at all.
It has happened in the past repeatedly.
Some got lucky and not caught yet.

Berkeley
https://www.berkeleyside.org/2019/07/28/uc-berkeley-kicked-off-the-u-s-news-world-report-rankings-of-best-u-s-colleges

Emory
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2012/08/20/emory-misreported-admissions-data-more-decade

Funny that these elite schools cheat, but people always pick on schools like Tulane Northeastern for 'gaming' LOL

The CDS is an useless piece of aggregated nonsense. What you really need is the govt to compel universities to submit disaggregated data on applicants, admitted, scores, ratings etc by interest group: legacy, athletes, by race, by gender, by geography and by citizenship. Without Govt compulsion the universities will never reveal this because it will show the kind of shenanigans going on in admissions at almost every school.

This is exactly the mindset that has kids and parents foaming at the mouth. We don't need these silly rankings that are intended to drive sales because most schools accept 50-75% of their applicants. The obsession with the same 20-30 schools is out of control so I understand why schools have been playing games. These lists are full of fiction.

But, post Covid, every school provides options to explore schools virtually. Make a list of schools that meet your child's GPA and interests, and keep it moving.

Anonymous wrote:The rest will follow Columbia 's lead and decline USNews. Columbia has the clout.

Uh this is not something new at all.
It has happened in the past repeatedly.
Some got lucky and not caught yet.

Berkeley
https://www.berkeleyside.org/2019/07/28/uc-berkeley-kicked-off-the-u-s-news-world-report-rankings-of-best-u-s-colleges

Emory
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2012/08/20/emory-misreported-admissions-data-more-decade

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would love to see the rankings go away

Or evolve to allowing each individual student to create their own personalized ranking based on factors that matter to them.

Uh students already do that.
The published rankings are just part of the references and factors.

The ivy worship on this site is funny. Finally an elite school punished for misdeeds.

Anonymous wrote:The rest will follow Columbia 's lead and decline USNews. Columbia has the clout.

For 1 Columbia is not Harvard. And 2 if you read the article submission to US news is due today so all the other colleges likely already submitted their info to USnews.

Anonymous wrote:They haven't made their Common Data Set public for years, maybe ever? Makes one wonder what others--like the University of Chicago and Johns Hopkins--who won't make their data public are hiding.

The CDS is an useless piece of aggregated nonsense. What you really need is the govt to compel universities to submit disaggregated data on applicants, admitted, scores, ratings etc by interest group: legacy, athletes, by race, by gender, by geography and by citizenship.
Without Govt compulsion the universities will never reveal this because it will show the kind of shenanigans going on in admissions at almost every school

Anonymous wrote:I would love to see the rankings go away

Or evolve to allowing each individual student to create their own personalized ranking based on factors that matter to them.

I would love to see the rankings go away

The rest will follow Columbia 's lead and decline USNews. Columbia has the clout.

They cheated, and now suddenly don't want to play to the game.

They haven't made their Common Data Set public for years, maybe ever? Makes one wonder what others--like the University of Chicago and Johns Hopkins--who won't make their data public are hiding.

It won't harm Columbia but is one more indication of why it isn't prudent to be obsessed with rankings. They are an OK reference as a starting point for what can be a daunting process of choosing a college but otherwise only useful for classless people that like to brag.

Holy Shit!!!This is just a mirage, they were suspended but won't admit it.

"Columbia University will not submit data to U.S. News & World Report for the next edition of its college rankings, the provost announced on Thursday, citing an active institutional review prompted by allegations that the university had provided false data to the magazine."

https://www.chronicle.com/article/columbia-u-wont-submit-data-to-u-s-news-rankings-after-professor-alleged-false-information