Anonymous
06/23/2022 22:51
Subject: Lowell High School admissions will return to merit-based system after S.F. school board vote
Anonymous wrote:When TJ is shut down, Langley and Mclean High will become the strongest high schools in FCPS. Don't expect all public schools generate the same outcome for everyone. It's impossible. As long students and parents are different, the outcome will be different.
What's stopping them now?
Anonymous
06/23/2022 22:05
Subject: Lowell High School admissions will return to merit-based system after S.F. school board vote
Great, just what we need — another thread to debate TJ admissions.
Anonymous
06/23/2022 22:01
Subject: Lowell High School admissions will return to merit-based system after S.F. school board vote
When TJ is shut down, Langley and Mclean High will become the strongest high schools in FCPS. Don't expect all public schools generate the same outcome for everyone. It's impossible. As long students and parents are different, the outcome will be different.
Anonymous
06/23/2022 21:40
Subject: Lowell High School admissions will return to merit-based system after S.F. school board vote
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'd agree if the vote happened right after the change, but the coalition for TJ people are so insufferable, that I doubt we ever go back to the old system.
The TJAAG and the FCDC say “hold my beer.”
Maybe the new board will just get fed up with everyone and close the school
We must not allow any different programs for any students. Public schools must generate the same outcome for everyone. Society only survives when everyone is infused with the same educational mush. Non-conformity with our demands if futile. We are Borg.
Actually the solution for this is for FCPS to offer a wide range of programs meeting the needs of different students. If STEM schools are oversubscribed, replicate them. If accelerated programs are oversubscribed, replicate them. You wouldn't see these problems, with all the associated racial animosity, if FCPS didn't limit TJ-type programs to one school and expect people to compete for admissions using subjective standards.
Of course none of these reforms will ever occur given the electorate in Fairfax. This will just cause the rich to go to private schools leaving mediocre public schools in their wake with little electoral support.
The real difference is people. What makes schools different are not the courses offered or the lab facilities. The value of TJ is the student pool. When this pool is downgraded, TJ is no longer as valuable as before.
Anonymous
06/23/2022 20:21
Subject: Lowell High School admissions will return to merit-based system after S.F. school board vote
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'd agree if the vote happened right after the change, but the coalition for TJ people are so insufferable, that I doubt we ever go back to the old system.
The TJAAG and the FCDC say “hold my beer.”
Maybe the new board will just get fed up with everyone and close the school
Stop destroying
Anonymous
06/23/2022 17:42
Subject: Lowell High School admissions will return to merit-based system after S.F. school board vote
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'd agree if the vote happened right after the change, but the coalition for TJ people are so insufferable, that I doubt we ever go back to the old system.
The TJAAG and the FCDC say “hold my beer.”
Maybe the new board will just get fed up with everyone and close the school
We must not allow any different programs for any students. Public schools must generate the same outcome for everyone. Society only survives when everyone is infused with the same educational mush. Non-conformity with our demands if futile. We are Borg.
Actually the solution for this is for FCPS to offer a wide range of programs meeting the needs of different students. If STEM schools are oversubscribed, replicate them. If accelerated programs are oversubscribed, replicate them. You wouldn't see these problems, with all the associated racial animosity, if FCPS didn't limit TJ-type programs to one school and expect people to compete for admissions using subjective standards.
Of course none of these reforms will ever occur given the electorate in Fairfax. This will just cause the rich to go to private schools leaving mediocre public schools in their wake with little electoral support.
It’s idiotic to think other schools don’t have STEM courses. TJ just has more because of the supply-induced demand.
Getting rid of TJ would be an excellent idea. Then individual schools could adjust their offerings further as needed.
I didn't say other schools don't have STEM courses. Actually individual schools should adjust their offerings. That is precisely what I am suggesting. What is stopping them? Students needing acceleration are underserved whether TJ exists or not.
The basic problem is that the school board, and likely the Fairfax electorate, seems to think that their job is to provide everyone the same education rather than try to individually give students the best education they can (subject to budget constraints of course).
Anonymous
06/23/2022 17:28
Subject: Lowell High School admissions will return to merit-based system after S.F. school board vote
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'd agree if the vote happened right after the change, but the coalition for TJ people are so insufferable, that I doubt we ever go back to the old system.
The TJAAG and the FCDC say “hold my beer.”
Maybe the new board will just get fed up with everyone and close the school
We must not allow any different programs for any students. Public schools must generate the same outcome for everyone. Society only survives when everyone is infused with the same educational mush. Non-conformity with our demands if futile. We are Borg.
Actually the solution for this is for FCPS to offer a wide range of programs meeting the needs of different students. If STEM schools are oversubscribed, replicate them. If accelerated programs are oversubscribed, replicate them. You wouldn't see these problems, with all the associated racial animosity, if FCPS didn't limit TJ-type programs to one school and expect people to compete for admissions using subjective standards.
Of course none of these reforms will ever occur given the electorate in Fairfax. This will just cause the rich to go to private schools leaving mediocre public schools in their wake with little electoral support.
There might be more electoral support if this crap School Board cared about schools other than TJ and the Title I schools.
Anonymous
06/23/2022 17:25
Subject: Lowell High School admissions will return to merit-based system after S.F. school board vote
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'd agree if the vote happened right after the change, but the coalition for TJ people are so insufferable, that I doubt we ever go back to the old system.
The TJAAG and the FCDC say “hold my beer.”
Maybe the new board will just get fed up with everyone and close the school
We must not allow any different programs for any students. Public schools must generate the same outcome for everyone. Society only survives when everyone is infused with the same educational mush. Non-conformity with our demands if futile. We are Borg.
Actually the solution for this is for FCPS to offer a wide range of programs meeting the needs of different students. If STEM schools are oversubscribed, replicate them. If accelerated programs are oversubscribed, replicate them. You wouldn't see these problems, with all the associated racial animosity, if FCPS didn't limit TJ-type programs to one school and expect people to compete for admissions using subjective standards.
Of course none of these reforms will ever occur given the electorate in Fairfax. This will just cause the rich to go to private schools leaving mediocre public schools in their wake with little electoral support.
It’s idiotic to think other schools don’t have STEM courses. TJ just has more because of the supply-induced demand.
Getting rid of TJ would be an excellent idea. Then individual schools could adjust their offerings further as needed.
Anonymous
06/23/2022 17:16
Subject: Lowell High School admissions will return to merit-based system after S.F. school board vote
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'd agree if the vote happened right after the change, but the coalition for TJ people are so insufferable, that I doubt we ever go back to the old system.
The TJAAG and the FCDC say “hold my beer.”
Maybe the new board will just get fed up with everyone and close the school
We must not allow any different programs for any students. Public schools must generate the same outcome for everyone. Society only survives when everyone is infused with the same educational mush. Non-conformity with our demands if futile. We are Borg.
Actually the solution for this is for FCPS to offer a wide range of programs meeting the needs of different students. If STEM schools are oversubscribed, replicate them. If accelerated programs are oversubscribed, replicate them. You wouldn't see these problems, with all the associated racial animosity, if FCPS didn't limit TJ-type programs to one school and expect people to compete for admissions using subjective standards.
Of course none of these reforms will ever occur given the electorate in Fairfax. This will just cause the rich to go to private schools leaving mediocre public schools in their wake with little electoral support.
Anonymous
06/23/2022 16:30
Subject: Lowell High School admissions will return to merit-based system after S.F. school board vote
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'd agree if the vote happened right after the change, but the coalition for TJ people are so insufferable, that I doubt we ever go back to the old system.
The TJAAG and the FCDC say “hold my beer.”
Maybe the new board will just get fed up with everyone and close the school
That would be the best thing to do.
Anonymous
06/23/2022 16:15
Subject: Lowell High School admissions will return to merit-based system after S.F. school board vote
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'd agree if the vote happened right after the change, but the coalition for TJ people are so insufferable, that I doubt we ever go back to the old system.
The TJAAG and the FCDC say “hold my beer.”
Maybe the new board will just get fed up with everyone and close the school
Anonymous
06/23/2022 16:15
Subject: Lowell High School admissions will return to merit-based system after S.F. school board vote
Anonymous wrote:I'd agree if the vote happened right after the change, but the coalition for TJ people are so insufferable, that I doubt we ever go back to the old system.
The TJAAG and the FCDC say “hold my beer.”
Anonymous
06/23/2022 16:13
Subject: Lowell High School admissions will return to merit-based system after S.F. school board vote
I'd agree if the vote happened right after the change, but the coalition for TJ people are so insufferable, that I doubt we ever go back to the old system.
Anonymous
06/23/2022 16:10
Subject: Re:Lowell High School admissions will return to merit-based system after S.F. school board vote
I assume the same thing will happen at TJ after a majority of the FCPS School Board is voted out next year. Fairfax isn’t as liberal as San Francisco and plenty of people are fed up with their incompetence.
Anonymous
06/23/2022 16:06
Subject: Lowell High School admissions will return to merit-based system after S.F. school board vote
"Lowell High School will return to academic-based admissions, the San Francisco Board of Education decided Wednesday evening in a 4-3 vote.
The board's decision restores merit-based admissions for the 2023-24 school year at Lowell, which had been suspended during the pandemic in favor of lottery-based admissions.
The board had decided in early 2021 to make the lottery-based admissions permanent, but a Superior Court judge ruled late last year that the board had violated California's open meeting law. The judge's ruling came too late for the 2022 academic year.
The board's vote on Wednesday turned down a recommendation from Superintendent Vince Matthews to keep the lottery system in place for another year."
https://www.sfgate.com/news/bayarea/article/Board-Of-Education-Votes-To-Return-Merit-Based-17259839.php
The board's decision restores merit-based admissions for the 2023-24 school year at Lowell, which had been suspended during the pandemic in favor of lottery-based admissions.
The board had decided in early 2021 to make the lottery-based admissions permanent, but a Superior Court judge ruled late last year that the board had violated California's open meeting law. The judge's ruling came too late for the 2022 academic year.
The board's vote on Wednesday turned down a recommendation from Superintendent Vince Matthews to keep the lottery system in place for another year."
https://www.sfgate.com/news/bayarea/article/Board-Of-Education-Votes-To-Return-Merit-Based-17259839.php