Anonymous
Post 06/16/2022 14:19     Subject: WaPo editorial calls out “machinations… of the council’s far left wing” in trying to stop Goulet
How many councilmenbers are “from” DC?

If the messages resonate with voters then why is it a concern where they come from? Just like it shouldn’t matter if a non-DC native runs for office.

If the messages don’t resonate then the point is moot.

I’m not being obtuse, I just don’t understand the objection unless it’s an appeal to nativism?
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2022 14:18     Subject: WaPo editorial calls out “machinations… of the council’s far left wing” in trying to stop Goulet
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the Washington Post’s editorial board doesn’t reflect Washingtonians or in particular Ward 3 voters then it will come out in the vote. I am not sure why it gets everyone so upset.


Same. There are people/groups who've endorsed candidates I don't like. The members of those groups don't all live in DC. But they can endorse who they like.


Nobody says they can't have opinions or endorse who they like. They can do those things. But, let's be honest that DFER money is dark money from outside DC and Post opinions about DC are written by a Maryland resident. Just like I don't like Congress interfering in DC's affairs, I am not a fan of non-DC millionaires or Maryland commuters intervening. Your mileage may vary.




This is so nutty.

First, no one person writes any Washington Post editorial. That's not how it works. They're written by the entire board.

Second, I'm not aware of anyone on the board who hasn't lived here forever. Jo-Ann Armao has been here for 40 years. Who cares if she technically lives in Silver Spring? (Are you begrudging teachers who can't afford to live in D.C. and live in PG County?)

It seems *extremely* disingenuous to compare her or anyone else on the board to an outside dark money group.
jsteele
Post 06/16/2022 14:11     Subject: WaPo editorial calls out “machinations… of the council’s far left wing” in trying to stop Goulet
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the Washington Post’s editorial board doesn’t reflect Washingtonians or in particular Ward 3 voters then it will come out in the vote. I am not sure why it gets everyone so upset.


Same. There are people/groups who've endorsed candidates I don't like. The members of those groups don't all live in DC. But they can endorse who they like.


Nobody says they can't have opinions or endorse who they like. They can do those things. But, let's be honest that DFER money is dark money from outside DC and Post opinions about DC are written by a Maryland resident. Just like I don't like Congress interfering in DC's affairs, I am not a fan of non-DC millionaires or Maryland commuters intervening. Your mileage may vary.


Anonymous
Post 06/16/2022 14:08     Subject: WaPo editorial calls out “machinations… of the council’s far left wing” in trying to stop Goulet
Anonymous wrote:If the Washington Post’s editorial board doesn’t reflect Washingtonians or in particular Ward 3 voters then it will come out in the vote. I am not sure why it gets everyone so upset.


I think the issue is that supporters of the endorsed candidates tend to use the endorsement to show that DC residents/organizations support them as well when the actual endorsement process doesn't even include a registered DC voter. The Post endorsement, for Goulet especially, has often been used to end any conversation about his lack of policy and ideas as well. There is a widespread misconception that WaPo knows more about DC than other organizations that endorse, whose endorsement teams are actually based in the city.
jsteele
Post 06/16/2022 14:07     Subject: WaPo editorial calls out “machinations… of the council’s far left wing” in trying to stop Goulet
Anonymous wrote:If the Washington Post’s editorial board doesn’t reflect Washingtonians or in particular Ward 3 voters then it will come out in the vote. I am not sure why it gets everyone so upset.


Not upset. Just pointing it out. If it is not a big deal, why are you repeatedly trying to claim it's not true? If you support outside money and outside opinions, that's your right. But let's just be clear about it.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2022 14:03     Subject: WaPo editorial calls out “machinations… of the council’s far left wing” in trying to stop Goulet
Anonymous wrote:If the Washington Post’s editorial board doesn’t reflect Washingtonians or in particular Ward 3 voters then it will come out in the vote. I am not sure why it gets everyone so upset.


Same. There are people/groups who've endorsed candidates I don't like. The members of those groups don't all live in DC. But they can endorse who they like.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2022 13:59     Subject: WaPo editorial calls out “machinations… of the council’s far left wing” in trying to stop Goulet
If the Washington Post’s editorial board doesn’t reflect Washingtonians or in particular Ward 3 voters then it will come out in the vote. I am not sure why it gets everyone so upset.
jsteele
Post 06/16/2022 13:54     Subject: WaPo editorial calls out “machinations… of the council’s far left wing” in trying to stop Goulet
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Post’s View | About the Editorial Board

Editorials represent the views of The Washington Post as an institution[u], as determined through debate among members of the Editorial Board, based in the Opinions section and separate from the newsroom.


I’m not sure why people keep ignoring this part.


I ignore it because I am not naive. Institutions don't have views, people do. In the case of editorials about DC, it is primarily one person who speaks for the institution.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2022 13:50     Subject: WaPo editorial calls out “machinations… of the council’s far left wing” in trying to stop Goulet
Anonymous wrote:The Post’s View | About the Editorial Board

Editorials represent the views of The Washington Post as an institution[u], as determined through debate among members of the Editorial Board, based in the Opinions section and separate from the newsroom.


I’m not sure why people keep ignoring this part.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2022 13:47     Subject: WaPo editorial calls out “machinations… of the council’s far left wing” in trying to stop Goulet
Anonymous wrote:The Post’s View | About the Editorial Board

Editorials represent the views of The Washington Post as an institution, as determined through debate among members of the Editorial Board, based in the Opinions section and separate from the newsroom.

Members of the Editorial Board and areas of focus: Deputy Editorial Page Editor Karen Tumulty; Deputy Editorial Page Editor Ruth Marcus; Associate Editorial Page Editor Jo-Ann Armao (education, D.C. affairs); Jonathan Capehart (national politics); Lee Hockstader (immigration; issues affecting Virginia and Maryland); David E. Hoffman (global public health); Charles Lane (foreign affairs, national security, international economics); Heather Long (economics); Molly Roberts (technology and society); and Stephen Stromberg (elections, the White House, Congress, legal affairs, energy, the environment, health care).


Many Ward 3 candidates mentioned that Jo-Ann Armao runs the nominations. She lives in Silver Spring, MD.
And she didn't brother to interview all of the candidate.
They were all sent a series of yes/no questions
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2022 13:46     Subject: Re:WaPo editorial calls out “machinations… of the council’s far left wing” in trying to stop Goulet
Jo-Ann only interviewed 4 of the people running for the Ward 3 seat. She endorses the most pro-business candidate in the race with a shot of winning. Being someone who lives in Maryland, she has no stake in this race other than trying to call it correctly so her work doesn't lose credibility.
jsteele
Post 06/16/2022 13:45     Subject: WaPo editorial calls out “machinations… of the council’s far left wing” in trying to stop Goulet
Anonymous wrote:The Post’s View | About the Editorial Board


Congrats. You have master copy and paste. Click on the names and you will see:

Jo-Ann Armao is an editorial writer for The Post, specializing in education and local affairs in the District of Columbia


To the extent that she bothers to "debate" her opinions with the other members of the Board, how many of them live in DC?
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2022 13:38     Subject: WaPo editorial calls out “machinations… of the council’s far left wing” in trying to stop Goulet
The Post’s View | About the Editorial Board

Editorials represent the views of The Washington Post as an institution, as determined through debate among members of the Editorial Board, based in the Opinions section and separate from the newsroom.

Members of the Editorial Board and areas of focus: Deputy Editorial Page Editor Karen Tumulty; Deputy Editorial Page Editor Ruth Marcus; Associate Editorial Page Editor Jo-Ann Armao (education, D.C. affairs); Jonathan Capehart (national politics); Lee Hockstader (immigration; issues affecting Virginia and Maryland); David E. Hoffman (global public health); Charles Lane (foreign affairs, national security, international economics); Heather Long (economics); Molly Roberts (technology and society); and Stephen Stromberg (elections, the White House, Congress, legal affairs, energy, the environment, health care).
jsteele
Post 06/16/2022 13:35     Subject: Re:WaPo editorial calls out “machinations… of the council’s far left wing” in trying to stop Goulet
The Post's editorials about DC are written by someone who doesn't live in DC. The perspective provided may accurately reflect that of suburban commuters, but not necessarily the views of DC residents. Just like the outside funds coming from DFER, we get outside opinions from the Post.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2022 13:30     Subject: WaPo editorial calls out “machinations… of the council’s far left wing” in trying to stop Goulet
They reiterate their endorsements of Bowser, Mendelson and Goulet, reminding voters.

“The District has been blessed with sober, stable leadership, but voters should remember it was not that long ago that its government was in dysfunction and its finances in disarray. It would be a mistake to return to those days.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/06/15/washington-dc-democratic-primary-endorsements/