Anonymous
Post 06/15/2022 18:52     Subject: DC residents: would you vote for a ballot initiative to implement ranked choice voting?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NO. Majority rules. Ranked choice often leads to people ranking people in a willy-nilly fashion without any substantive reason. Granted, one could say than all winners depend on those who vote for them without reason but at least the majority of those votes weren't silly, off the cuff reasons (oh! Candidate Shanahan! My mother's grandmother was a Shanahan... might as well put her 2nd)


[Citation needed]


Just try being in the real world for second. People who don't have time to look up each candidate's credentials and experience, who simply find a few minutes to go vote on Election Day. They don't know who is who. They have someone in mind...that's who they vote for. Asking them to rank-order the others is putting them in a situation as described above. It's a horse race at that point. The trifecta box with the longshot. They don't know who is the fastest runner, they only are betting on the name or the stable colors or the ??????


There's no requirement that you rank every name. If you only know one name rank them first and stop. Candidates that no one knows aren't going anywhere anyway.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2022 18:45     Subject: DC residents: would you vote for a ballot initiative to implement ranked choice voting?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NO. Majority rules. Ranked choice often leads to people ranking people in a willy-nilly fashion without any substantive reason. Granted, one could say than all winners depend on those who vote for them without reason but at least the majority of those votes weren't silly, off the cuff reasons (oh! Candidate Shanahan! My mother's grandmother was a Shanahan... might as well put her 2nd)


[Citation needed]


Just try being in the real world for second. People who don't have time to look up each candidate's credentials and experience, who simply find a few minutes to go vote on Election Day. They don't know who is who. They have someone in mind...that's who they vote for. Asking them to rank-order the others is putting them in a situation as described above. It's a horse race at that point. The trifecta box with the longshot. They don't know who is the fastest runner, they only are betting on the name or the stable colors or the ??????
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2022 18:40     Subject: DC residents: would you vote for a ballot initiative to implement ranked choice voting?

Yes
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2022 18:21     Subject: DC residents: would you vote for a ballot initiative to implement ranked choice voting?

Anonymous wrote:NO. Majority rules. Ranked choice often leads to people ranking people in a willy-nilly fashion without any substantive reason. Granted, one could say than all winners depend on those who vote for them without reason but at least the majority of those votes weren't silly, off the cuff reasons (oh! Candidate Shanahan! My mother's grandmother was a Shanahan... might as well put her 2nd)


[Citation needed]
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2022 18:14     Subject: DC residents: would you vote for a ballot initiative to implement ranked choice voting?

NO. Majority rules. Ranked choice often leads to people ranking people in a willy-nilly fashion without any substantive reason. Granted, one could say than all winners depend on those who vote for them without reason but at least the majority of those votes weren't silly, off the cuff reasons (oh! Candidate Shanahan! My mother's grandmother was a Shanahan... might as well put her 2nd)
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2022 18:09     Subject: Re:DC residents: would you vote for a ballot initiative to implement ranked choice voting?

Anonymous wrote:Would rank choice result in an even more Uber liberal city council? It’s about as progressive it can be as evidenced by the spike in crime, a result of woke criminal justice reform, but sure, let’s do rank choice and see how many more tax increases on tax payers, and helping perpetrators of crime we can.


So democracy is bad if it doesn't result in the outcomes you like?
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2022 18:03     Subject: Re:DC residents: would you vote for a ballot initiative to implement ranked choice voting?

Anonymous wrote:Would rank choice result in an even more Uber liberal city council? It’s about as progressive it can be as evidenced by the spike in crime, a result of woke criminal justice reform, but sure, let’s do rank choice and see how many more tax increases on tax payers, and helping perpetrators of crime we can.


Are you speculating or do you have any data to support this notion?

Anonymous
Post 06/15/2022 18:00     Subject: DC residents: would you vote for a ballot initiative to implement ranked choice voting?

Absolutely yes.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2022 17:41     Subject: Re:DC residents: would you vote for a ballot initiative to implement ranked choice voting?

Would rank choice result in an even more Uber liberal city council? It’s about as progressive it can be as evidenced by the spike in crime, a result of woke criminal justice reform, but sure, let’s do rank choice and see how many more tax increases on tax payers, and helping perpetrators of crime we can.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2022 17:30     Subject: DC residents: would you vote for a ballot initiative to implement ranked choice voting?

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely.

Also non-partisan primaries as an alternative. Top two candidates of either party advance in November.


This.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2022 17:24     Subject: DC residents: would you vote for a ballot initiative to implement ranked choice voting?

Anonymous wrote:First-past-the-post partisan primaries don't benefit democracy, they benefit the party structure.


Yep
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2022 17:24     Subject: Re:DC residents: would you vote for a ballot initiative to implement ranked choice voting?

100%

But DC Democratic Party would never allow it
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2022 17:20     Subject: DC residents: would you vote for a ballot initiative to implement ranked choice voting?

First-past-the-post partisan primaries don't benefit democracy, they benefit the party structure.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2022 17:19     Subject: DC residents: would you vote for a ballot initiative to implement ranked choice voting?

Absolutely.

Also non-partisan primaries as an alternative. Top two candidates of either party advance in November.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2022 17:18     Subject: DC residents: would you vote for a ballot initiative to implement ranked choice voting?

I find it pretty terrible that someone can basically become a Council member by winning less than 30% of the vote in a Democratic primary due to a crowded field. It's probably going to happen with Goulet in W3 and already happened with Pinto in W2 in 2020.

Would you vote for a ballot measure to implement ranked-choice voting? I feel like DC is the perfect place for this given our crowded primaries.