Anonymous wrote:It is geography. Nothing can or should be done. Close your windows.

I was in a house that had double pane plus sound blocking window inserts. They said they got 4 hours of sleep a night. Sold and got out

I don’t think you can sue for that. It’s not a disclosure requirement in DC. I just think that the hypocrisy of calling people crazy over and over for mentioning it on dcum etc will have to stop.

I have a friend who built a dream house there-ish. She said she’s desperate to get out, and I think they sold

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Anonymous wrote:How were the buyers "unsuspecting"? Because they visited the house for 15 minutes then put in a no-contingency bid for their "forever home"? Seems like spending some time in the neighborhood would have revealed the problem, right?

Well you have to be in the neighborhood at 5:30 am when the planes take off every 5 minutes

So is that the only time it happens, and how bad is it? If it truly was something that could have been known by a reasonably diligent buyer (because it only happens at 5:30 am), then the buyer should sue for the failure to disclose. If I were a seller, I would have disclosed, because buyers in this market would be foolish enough to not care.

For any disappointed buyers, if you think you have a good case, and there was no disclosure, hire a lawyer and sue (or do it pro se).

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Anonymous wrote:The situation is unsustainable

What's going to happen?

I guess people who value their health and well being will look elsewhere. Cleveland Park dwellers will get richer and these areas fade in popularity

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Anonymous wrote:How were the buyers "unsuspecting"? Because they visited the house for 15 minutes then put in a no-contingency bid for their "forever home"? Seems like spending some time in the neighborhood would have revealed the problem, right?

Well you have to be in the neighborhood at 5:30 am when the planes take off every 5 minutes

That’s not wrong, since Sundays during open houses are nearly compatible with human life). We almost got sold a gorgeous house but luckily I sat in the car in front on Monday early am — Mary and Joseph! Every 1.5 mins and low and loud

Anonymous wrote:The situation is unsustainable

What's going to happen?

I predict prices will self-correct in these locations and they will eventually become blighted, you can gaslight people only for so long (except in the case of Spring Valley where the gaslighting has been done quite successfully for decades, but selling the Hole of Hades for 1.5m takes the cake)

Anonymous wrote:How were the buyers "unsuspecting"? Because they visited the house for 15 minutes then put in a no-contingency bid for their "forever home"? Seems like spending some time in the neighborhood would have revealed the problem, right?

Well you have to be in the neighborhood at 5:30 am when the planes take off every 5 minutes

How were the buyers "unsuspecting"? Because they visited the house for 15 minutes then put in a no-contingency bid for their "forever home"? Seems like spending some time in the neighborhood would have revealed the problem, right?

It is geography. Nothing can or should be done. Close your windows.

Anonymous wrote:The situation is unsustainable

they should remove houses from the flight path

The situation is unsustainable

OP deffo did not buy under a flight oath Wasn’t born yesterday

Oops. Sorry you didn't do your due diligence before buying in a flight path.

Any time you're within 5 or 10 miles of an airport, you run the risk paths might change.

I love it how there’s a ton of plane noise bellyaching on the Palisades/Foxhall neighborhood listserve about just how unbearable and unsolvable it’s become. Yet, say something here, and it’s the one crazy lady complaining (why is it always a “lady” and “crazy”?!)

People are rightly pushed to the brink with the constant noise and pollution concerns. Real estate is likely to get depressed too. But they’ll deny deny deny on dcum. Funnily no one of the listserv is saying this is crazy and to have a drink and enjoy (real world advice from
a realtor who sold their Palisades house to unsuspecting buyers…)