Anonymous
05/19/2022 09:28
Subject: Re:Is PMP worth it? Management track non IT?>
Anonymous wrote:I had to look up the meaning of PMP.
As one who works in IT, I would ask: are you sure that project management is a thing that you want to do? We always sort of made fun of project managers as being useless or worse than useless, since (at least in my experience) they seem to know little to nothing about the projects that they are actually managing (or IT concepts in general). On the other hand, they are responsibile for many items which are outside of their control.
I'm sure that there are areas where project management is legitimately useful (construction, most likely), and where project managers are actually knowledgeable and can provide experience and wisdom. I haven't seen it in anything IT-related, though.
That's why "project manager" isn't (or shouldn't be) a role for an IT project. Either a Product Owner or Scrum master / facilitator.
Anonymous
05/19/2022 09:12
Subject: Re:Is PMP worth it? Management track non IT?>
I had to look up the meaning of PMP.
As one who works in IT, I would ask: are you sure that project management is a thing that you want to do? We always sort of made fun of project managers as being useless or worse than useless, since (at least in my experience) they seem to know little to nothing about the projects that they are actually managing (or IT concepts in general). On the other hand, they are responsibile for many items which are outside of their control.
I'm sure that there are areas where project management is legitimately useful (construction, most likely), and where project managers are actually knowledgeable and can provide experience and wisdom. I haven't seen it in anything IT-related, though.
As one who works in IT, I would ask: are you sure that project management is a thing that you want to do? We always sort of made fun of project managers as being useless or worse than useless, since (at least in my experience) they seem to know little to nothing about the projects that they are actually managing (or IT concepts in general). On the other hand, they are responsibile for many items which are outside of their control.
I'm sure that there are areas where project management is legitimately useful (construction, most likely), and where project managers are actually knowledgeable and can provide experience and wisdom. I haven't seen it in anything IT-related, though.
Anonymous
05/19/2022 08:53
Subject: Is PMP worth it? Management track non IT?>
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the whole need PMP thing. You can literally attend a class over a weekend to get your PMP.
Tell me you never got your PMP without telling me you didn’t get it.
You need 35 hours worth of projects under your belt, 3 years experience, and then you have to get it signed off by 3 people who you’ve worked with. It’s quite a process. It’s definitely not “just take a class on a Saturday and there you go” situation.
But none of that has anything to do with PMP. Again I’ll say to get your PMP you simply need to attend a weekend class. All the rest can be simply out on a resume, “3 years of experience and blah blah blah.”
As a chief engineer of about 100 software developers I actually judge people that put this garbage on their resume. I’ll actually ask you about it and if you praise it for being so amazing you go directly into the reject pile.
I imagine for IT projects you'd be looking for someone with Agile certs anyway, no? PMP would be nice but less relevant.
Yes. Sort of. Experience trumps any cert. Agile certs are a bit ironically anti agile. Honestly if you can tell me the Agile Manifesto and how you use it to guide your decision making I check the box. Certs can help replace lack of experience to an extent. That is why I’m so anti PMP. It literally teaches you nothing that the prerequisite shouldn’t have already thought you. It is a giant pay to play scam that so much of the government contracting world has eaten hook line and sinker. I had it at one point just to have for the check box on certain federal contract positions.
Anonymous
05/19/2022 08:17
Subject: Is PMP worth it? Management track non IT?>
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the whole need PMP thing. You can literally attend a class over a weekend to get your PMP.
Tell me you never got your PMP without telling me you didn’t get it.
You need 35 hours worth of projects under your belt, 3 years experience, and then you have to get it signed off by 3 people who you’ve worked with. It’s quite a process. It’s definitely not “just take a class on a Saturday and there you go” situation.
But none of that has anything to do with PMP. Again I’ll say to get your PMP you simply need to attend a weekend class. All the rest can be simply out on a resume, “3 years of experience and blah blah blah.”
As a chief engineer of about 100 software developers I actually judge people that put this garbage on their resume. I’ll actually ask you about it and if you praise it for being so amazing you go directly into the reject pile.
I imagine for IT projects you'd be looking for someone with Agile certs anyway, no? PMP would be nice but less relevant.
Anonymous
05/19/2022 08:07
Subject: Is PMP worth it? Management track non IT?>
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the whole need PMP thing. You can literally attend a class over a weekend to get your PMP.
Tell me you never got your PMP without telling me you didn’t get it.
You need 35 hours worth of projects under your belt, 3 years experience, and then you have to get it signed off by 3 people who you’ve worked with. It’s quite a process. It’s definitely not “just take a class on a Saturday and there you go” situation.
But none of that has anything to do with PMP. Again I’ll say to get your PMP you simply need to attend a weekend class. All the rest can be simply out on a resume, “3 years of experience and blah blah blah.”
As a chief engineer of about 100 software developers I actually judge people that put this garbage on their resume. I’ll actually ask you about it and if you praise it for being so amazing you go directly into the reject pile.
Anonymous
05/19/2022 07:46
Subject: Is PMP worth it? Management track non IT?>
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the whole need PMP thing. You can literally attend a class over a weekend to get your PMP.
Tell me you never got your PMP without telling me you didn’t get it.
You need 35 hours worth of projects under your belt, 3 years experience, and then you have to get it signed off by 3 people who you’ve worked with. It’s quite a process. It’s definitely not “just take a class on a Saturday and there you go” situation.
Anonymous
05/19/2022 07:39
Subject: Is PMP worth it? Management track non IT?>
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the whole need PMP thing. You can literally attend a class over a weekend to get your PMP.
Exactly. It is a nothingburger. But, if some employer was paying for it, it is a low hanging fruit and does not hurt to have on your resume.
Anonymous
05/19/2022 07:34
Subject: Is PMP worth it? Management track non IT?>
I don’t understand the whole need PMP thing. You can literally attend a class over a weekend to get your PMP.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 13:29
Subject: Re:Is PMP worth it? Management track non IT?>
yes- I do management consulting for the government. If you work private sector a lot of LCATs will actually require a PMP.
Ihatedumbsoccerparents
05/18/2022 13:18
Subject: Re:Is PMP worth it? Management track non IT?>
I believe the PMP is a great certificate. I have no college degree and with my PMP I can easily pull 125 -150 with my certification. Fellow co workers without PMP and a degree are signing on around 90-110...fwiw
Anonymous
05/18/2022 00:05
Subject: Is PMP worth it? Management track non IT?>
Yes especially if you are a pm in the government or IT space, it’s worth it. You will get much more recruiter interest.
Anonymous
05/17/2022 21:06
Subject: Is PMP worth it? Management track non IT?>
I'd say it makes sense for anyone who manages projects. It's not the only way to do things but it provides a good foundation to work off to adapt to your situation.
Anonymous
05/17/2022 20:44
Subject: Is PMP worth it? Management track non IT?>
Is the PMP certificate worth it? For those of you who have it, was it worth ut? what industry?
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