Anonymous
05/18/2022 20:38
Subject: 5 year old beats up teacher in Florida
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s a nightmare. I cover a kindergarten class for an hour everyday so the aide can get a break and it’s total chaos. There are two kids who, if told no (or you don’t let them just wander around the classroom and do what they want) will scream, kick/hit other kids, take off their shoes and chuck them across the room, flip chairs, rip stuff off the walls etc. EVERY DAY. There is absolutely zero learning going on for anybody in that class and it’s just…so depressing.
Is this is specific special needs class?
No, this is one of the gen ed classes.
what? where did you read that? it says in the article linked in the op that it is a special needs class.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 20:28
Subject: 5 year old beats up teacher in Florida
Are there no workhouses?
Anonymous
05/18/2022 14:11
Subject: 5 year old beats up teacher in Florida
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Teachers also need to press charges. It sounds mean, but it actually gets help for the kid.
Press changes on whom? The article says you cannot prosecute a child under 7. I can’t imagine the parents are liable since their child is legally allowed to go to school. Do you file suit against the school for not providing enough safety for the teacher? Who is liable here?
The school system needs to ensure the safety of its employees. This child is a clear and present danger and needed 1:1 support at least. Clearly also needed real mental health treatment, which should have pursued after the first (or by god the second hospitalization).
I speak as someone who has had to get my own child treated. It is the worst thing I have ever been through, but sending children with untreated aggression to school is dangerous and they either need aides to keep them from exploding (or safe) or they need to be in a safer environment.
Accommodation laws guarantee *everyone* a right to an education, with the assumption that it is safe. Thankfully while we were working to get my son treatment (And medication) we were able to get my son a 1:1 aide so he could leave the classroom well before this type of thing.
I'm sure some posters here will blame me, but my son has a lot of complex problems, ASD, ADHD, physical issues, and I've worked day and night to advocate as much for all the other kids in class as for him. I wish it didn't take a parent doing that doggedly and obsessively to keep teachers and other kids safe.
Thank you for advocating for your child! Too many parents just blame the school and say “but Larla doesn’t do this at home. It is the school’s fault.”
Anonymous
05/18/2022 12:54
Subject: 5 year old beats up teacher in Florida
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Teachers also need to press charges. It sounds mean, but it actually gets help for the kid.
Press changes on whom? The article says you cannot prosecute a child under 7. I can’t imagine the parents are liable since their child is legally allowed to go to school. Do you file suit against the school for not providing enough safety for the teacher? Who is liable here?
The school system needs to ensure the safety of its employees. This child is a clear and present danger and needed 1:1 support at least. Clearly also needed real mental health treatment, which should have pursued after the first (or by god the second hospitalization).
I speak as someone who has had to get my own child treated. It is the worst thing I have ever been through, but sending children with untreated aggression to school is dangerous and they either need aides to keep them from exploding (or safe) or they need to be in a safer environment.
Accommodation laws guarantee *everyone* a right to an education, with the assumption that it is safe. Thankfully while we were working to get my son treatment (And medication) we were able to get my son a 1:1 aide so he could leave the classroom well before this type of thing.
I'm sure some posters here will blame me, but my son has a lot of complex problems, ASD, ADHD, physical issues, and I've worked day and night to advocate as much for all the other kids in class as for him. I wish it didn't take a parent doing that doggedly and obsessively to keep teachers and other kids safe.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 12:46
Subject: 5 year old beats up teacher in Florida
Anonymous wrote:Teachers also need to press charges. It sounds mean, but it actually gets help for the kid.
Press changes on whom? The article says you cannot prosecute a child under 7. I can’t imagine the parents are liable since their child is legally allowed to go to school. Do you file suit against the school for not providing enough safety for the teacher? Who is liable here?
Anonymous
05/18/2022 11:51
Subject: 5 year old beats up teacher in Florida
Teachers also need to press charges. It sounds mean, but it actually gets help for the kid.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 11:50
Subject: 5 year old beats up teacher in Florida
If a child like this hurts your child, you need to press charges. This will trigger chances at the school quickly.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 11:50
Subject: Re:5 year old beats up teacher in Florida
While the outcome of this story is extreme, it comes as no surprise to anyone who has worked in a self-contained room. Almost everyone has a story about the time they got a serious bite, or how they're still wearing a mouth guard at night because they got head butted two years ago, or a gnarly scar from being stabbed with a pen. Make no mistake, most of the kids in these rooms are great. Yes, there are behaviors sometimes but that's expected in these classrooms and staff are trained. However, there is a subset of students who have needs beyond what public schools should be expected to handle. We are not set up to deal with untreated severe mental illness or mood disorders and most schools do not have the staffing to handle the kind of serious aggressive behavior that was happening in this classroom. Putting these demands on staff members in a public school is a great way to ensure burnout and no one willing to do these jobs.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 10:00
Subject: 5 year old beats up teacher in Florida
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s a nightmare. I cover a kindergarten class for an hour everyday so the aide can get a break and it’s total chaos. There are two kids who, if told no (or you don’t let them just wander around the classroom and do what they want) will scream, kick/hit other kids, take off their shoes and chuck them across the room, flip chairs, rip stuff off the walls etc. EVERY DAY. There is absolutely zero learning going on for anybody in that class and it’s just…so depressing.
Is this is specific special needs class?
No, this is one of the gen ed classes.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 09:59
Subject: 5 year old beats up teacher in Florida
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s a nightmare. I cover a kindergarten class for an hour everyday so the aide can get a break and it’s total chaos. There are two kids who, if told no (or you don’t let them just wander around the classroom and do what they want) will scream, kick/hit other kids, take off their shoes and chuck them across the room, flip chairs, rip stuff off the walls etc. EVERY DAY. There is absolutely zero learning going on for anybody in that class and it’s just…so depressing.
Is this is specific special needs class?
NP. In my experience as a weekly volunteer in K & 1 grade, no, that is probably a regular classroom. It is so sad for all the students and burns out the teachers that intentionally did not choose SpecEd. Some school of thought is that the challenged child will mirror other's better behavior.
In reality, often makes it worse because the other kids don't like them. Then, the other kids start acting up.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 09:12
Subject: 5 year old beats up teacher in Florida
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s a nightmare. I cover a kindergarten class for an hour everyday so the aide can get a break and it’s total chaos. There are two kids who, if told no (or you don’t let them just wander around the classroom and do what they want) will scream, kick/hit other kids, take off their shoes and chuck them across the room, flip chairs, rip stuff off the walls etc. EVERY DAY. There is absolutely zero learning going on for anybody in that class and it’s just…so depressing.
Is this is specific special needs class?
DP: The vast majority of kids who need a self-contianed LD classroom will not get through the paperwork process until almost second grade, especially if the parents don't think there is a problem. Public K classrooms can be a nightmare. My 18YO still remembers the name of the boy who caused absolute chaos in the K classroom. Lots of kids got physically hurt, not to mention the emotional trauma. That teacher quit before the year was over.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 09:00
Subject: 5 year old beats up teacher in Florida
Anonymous wrote:It’s a nightmare. I cover a kindergarten class for an hour everyday so the aide can get a break and it’s total chaos. There are two kids who, if told no (or you don’t let them just wander around the classroom and do what they want) will scream, kick/hit other kids, take off their shoes and chuck them across the room, flip chairs, rip stuff off the walls etc. EVERY DAY. There is absolutely zero learning going on for anybody in that class and it’s just…so depressing.
Is this is specific special needs class?
Anonymous
05/17/2022 18:00
Subject: 5 year old beats up teacher in Florida
Schools should have more say in sending such children to self-contained programs. At Bethesda Elementary years ago, my son was in the same class as a violent child who was very purposeful in hurting other children. He hit my toddler daughter in the head at drop-off one day, very deliberately. He pushed kids off the top of the play structure at recess. All day, every day. The parents were clueless and didn't want him to be transferred somewhere else, and perhaps from MCPS' perspective, there wasn't enough evidence? I don't know, but it took the Principal years to finally get rid of him.
And this isn't a question of special needs, and whether they are adequately treated in school. Bethesda Elementary is known for its special needs team and how well they handle all kinds of kids. This was a question of a near-psychopathic child who needed another kind of educational system where he couldn't hurt others.
And this isn't a question of special needs, and whether they are adequately treated in school. Bethesda Elementary is known for its special needs team and how well they handle all kinds of kids. This was a question of a near-psychopathic child who needed another kind of educational system where he couldn't hurt others.
Anonymous
05/17/2022 17:38
Subject: 5 year old beats up teacher in Florida
It’s a nightmare. I cover a kindergarten class for an hour everyday so the aide can get a break and it’s total chaos. There are two kids who, if told no (or you don’t let them just wander around the classroom and do what they want) will scream, kick/hit other kids, take off their shoes and chuck them across the room, flip chairs, rip stuff off the walls etc. EVERY DAY. There is absolutely zero learning going on for anybody in that class and it’s just…so depressing.
Anonymous
05/17/2022 09:22
Subject: 5 year old beats up teacher in Florida
This randomly came into my local news, even though it is from a couple months ago. Perhaps it has already been brought up...
No wonder why no one wants to go into teaching. It is turning out to be challenging in so many ways that teachers are not trained for. Teachers are not mental health professionals, nor are they adequately trained to handle physical attacks. Our special ed services need a complete revamp.
https://www.fox13news.com/news/florida-teacher-hospitalized-after-attack-by-5-year-old-needs-surgery-union-says-its-childs-3rd-attack
No wonder why no one wants to go into teaching. It is turning out to be challenging in so many ways that teachers are not trained for. Teachers are not mental health professionals, nor are they adequately trained to handle physical attacks. Our special ed services need a complete revamp.
https://www.fox13news.com/news/florida-teacher-hospitalized-after-attack-by-5-year-old-needs-surgery-union-says-its-childs-3rd-attack