OP, i hear you. For environmental, cost and health reasons i am attempting to limit meat and introduce what i call “natural meat alternatives” which i define as eggs, beans, lentils, etc.
local meat from small family farms > factory farmed meat from far away
Vegetable based protein > animal based
Etc

But i am only so far as making sure that i plan for one meat-free dinner per week. My lunches tend to be meat free or meat lite. But DH is a big meat and potatoes guy so it's tough

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Anonymous wrote:Just stop eating meat. If you can't just do that then stop pretending to care.

Humans are omnivores. Get over it.

Stop reproducing first, duh. The problem is the fact there are too many humans, not the fact that we are evolved omnivores.

This. We have a population problem, not a pollution or global warming problem. Too many humans and Covid wasn’t allowed to do what is was intended to do.

Finally, crazies show up

I eat beef a few times a year. I only had one child, though. No beef if you have more than 2 kids! You've already overspent your emissions allotment.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just stop eating meat. If you can't just do that then stop pretending to care.

Humans are omnivores. Get over it.

Stop reproducing first, duh. The problem is the fact there are too many humans, not the fact that we are evolved omnivores.

This. We have a population problem, not a pollution or global warming problem. Too many humans and Covid wasn’t allowed to do what is was intended to do.

Anonymous wrote:Just stop eating meat. If you can't just do that then stop pretending to care.

Humans are omnivores. Get over it.

Stop reproducing first, duh. The problem is the fact there are too many humans, not the fact that we are evolved omnivores.

Anonymous wrote:Just stop eating meat. If you can't just do that then stop pretending to care.

There is a big variation between beef, pork and chicken, in terms of land use, water use and emissions. No one has to give meat up totally. And you will get more buy-in if you stop talking like this.

We stopped eating beef a few years ago for that reason. It’s by far the worst. We also switched to vegetable deliveries that recover food that would otherwise be trashed, compost, try to buy local, in-season as much as possible.

Just stop eating meat. If you can't just do that then stop pretending to care.

This is really interesting—thanks for posting. I learned about the issues with decomposition of food waste a year or so ago and started composting as a result.
I was surprised to see them rate dairy as so much worse than pork or poultry—it suggests replacing meat with cheese/yogurt protein is not a good way to help the earth. I’d like to see other studies that do something similar on a larger and more systematic scale.

DH and I have decided to try and eat less meat and more plants. There’s no way we could ever be vegetarian or vegan – we like meat too much! However, I think it’s hard to argue against the personal health benefits and broader ethical benefits of emissions reductions. For anyone else grappling with or interested in similar issues, this article from the BBC is interesting. Clearly it’s very anecdotal but the conclusion of following the eating pattern of a vegan, vegetarian and an omnivore were the emissions generated by one week’s eating were equivalent to 25 miles driving for the vegan, 42 miles for the vego, and 121 miles for the omnivore.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220429-the-climate-benefits-of-veganism-and-vegetarianism

My takeaways were:

- don’t focus on air miles as not big portion of emissions - I was a bit surprised
- don’t waste food and compost if possible (didn’t realise rotting food in cheap landfills was so bad, aside from the general wastage issue)
- the method of cooking can release more emissions than the food itself - quite surprised and will use the microwave a bit more. No way I’m eating cauliflower steamed rather than oven-roasted though.

Eating beef seems to have the worst impact and the US is now the second biggest consumer of beef from Brazil, which you could argue makes it the second bigger destroyer of Amazon rainforest (is that a stretch?). If only, we could reduce the size of those hamburger patties by a third or a half. They are generally oversized anyway. So I’ve resolved to switch out beef more than I already have.