Anonymous
05/01/2022 20:30
Subject: Restraints talk to me ASFS parent’s
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’ve had kids at asfs for over a decade and never heard of this. One of my kids was literally strangled five years ago (had bruises on his neck for several weeks, they called an ambulance at the time), and the kid who did it was not sent to a restraining room.
Not OP but they are not talking about interactions with other students. They are talking about restraint/seclusion by staff.
Ok, but if there’s ever a reason to retrain a kid strangulation would be at the top of the list.
Actually no it isn’t. A seclusion room is for kids who are out of control and cannot be managed by other less restrictive means. Use is not necessarily based on the behavior but rather the ability to calm down and get back under control. What happened to your kid sounds more akin to a school fight which typically ends as soon as the kids can be separated. A seclusion room would be more for the situation where a kid is destroying a classroom.
This is not to minimize what happened to your child. But you really don’t seem to understand when seclusion is used.
You are responding to a different person btw.
The kid who strangled my son had issues, he strangled three other kids in extended day earlier in the year, and had thrown scissors at another kid in my sons class earlier that week. My son was in first grade when it happened, it wasn’t a school fight and in retrospect was really really disturbing. There was a hearing about the incident— the kid who did it was essentially expelled because they thought he was a danger to other kids.
Either way I have no idea if there is a restraining room— any idea where it is? I’m guessing the trailers? There aren’t any secret rooms that weren’t turned into classrooms in the year before covid, so I don’t know where they would have had it.
Very few, if any, mainstream public schools have seclusion rooms anymore. They usually clear the regular classroom for the kind of behavior you're describing. There's always either a staff member inside the room with the student or immediately outside and able to look in.
Op, if you have a child in general education who doesn't have any behavior problems it is highly unlikely they'd ever encounter one of these rooms or require physical restraint.
Anonymous
05/01/2022 17:50
Subject: Restraints talk to me ASFS parent’s
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’ve had kids at asfs for over a decade and never heard of this. One of my kids was literally strangled five years ago (had bruises on his neck for several weeks, they called an ambulance at the time), and the kid who did it was not sent to a restraining room.
Not OP but they are not talking about interactions with other students. They are talking about restraint/seclusion by staff.
Ok, but if there’s ever a reason to retrain a kid strangulation would be at the top of the list.
Actually no it isn’t. A seclusion room is for kids who are out of control and cannot be managed by other less restrictive means. Use is not necessarily based on the behavior but rather the ability to calm down and get back under control. What happened to your kid sounds more akin to a school fight which typically ends as soon as the kids can be separated. A seclusion room would be more for the situation where a kid is destroying a classroom.
This is not to minimize what happened to your child. But you really don’t seem to understand when seclusion is used.
You are responding to a different person btw.
The kid who strangled my son had issues, he strangled three other kids in extended day earlier in the year, and had thrown scissors at another kid in my sons class earlier that week. My son was in first grade when it happened, it wasn’t a school fight and in retrospect was really really disturbing. There was a hearing about the incident— the kid who did it was essentially expelled because they thought he was a danger to other kids.
Either way I have no idea if there is a restraining room— any idea where it is? I’m guessing the trailers? There aren’t any secret rooms that weren’t turned into classrooms in the year before covid, so I don’t know where they would have had it.
Maybe the kid just goes to the counseling room?
Anonymous
05/01/2022 16:14
Subject: Restraints talk to me ASFS parent’s
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’ve had kids at asfs for over a decade and never heard of this. One of my kids was literally strangled five years ago (had bruises on his neck for several weeks, they called an ambulance at the time), and the kid who did it was not sent to a restraining room.
Not OP but they are not talking about interactions with other students. They are talking about restraint/seclusion by staff.
Ok, but if there’s ever a reason to retrain a kid strangulation would be at the top of the list.
Actually no it isn’t. A seclusion room is for kids who are out of control and cannot be managed by other less restrictive means. Use is not necessarily based on the behavior but rather the ability to calm down and get back under control. What happened to your kid sounds more akin to a school fight which typically ends as soon as the kids can be separated. A seclusion room would be more for the situation where a kid is destroying a classroom.
This is not to minimize what happened to your child. But you really don’t seem to understand when seclusion is used.
You are responding to a different person btw.
The kid who strangled my son had issues, he strangled three other kids in extended day earlier in the year, and had thrown scissors at another kid in my sons class earlier that week. My son was in first grade when it happened, it wasn’t a school fight and in retrospect was really really disturbing. There was a hearing about the incident— the kid who did it was essentially expelled because they thought he was a danger to other kids.
Either way I have no idea if there is a restraining room— any idea where it is? I’m guessing the trailers? There aren’t any secret rooms that weren’t turned into classrooms in the year before covid, so I don’t know where they would have had it.
Anonymous
05/01/2022 14:28
Subject: Restraints talk to me ASFS parent’s
Anonymous wrote:Is this for real? If so, is this new??
Probably not given that OP is refusing to clarify anything, post links to substantiate, etc.
Anonymous
05/01/2022 14:24
Subject: Restraints talk to me ASFS parent’s
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’ve had kids at asfs for over a decade and never heard of this. One of my kids was literally strangled five years ago (had bruises on his neck for several weeks, they called an ambulance at the time), and the kid who did it was not sent to a restraining room.
Not OP but they are not talking about interactions with other students. They are talking about restraint/seclusion by staff.
Ok, but if there’s ever a reason to retrain a kid strangulation would be at the top of the list.
Actually no it isn’t. A seclusion room is for kids who are out of control and cannot be managed by other less restrictive means. Use is not necessarily based on the behavior but rather the ability to calm down and get back under control. What happened to your kid sounds more akin to a school fight which typically ends as soon as the kids can be separated. A seclusion room would be more for the situation where a kid is destroying a classroom.
This is not to minimize what happened to your child. But you really don’t seem to understand when seclusion is used.
Anonymous
05/01/2022 14:15
Subject: Restraints talk to me ASFS parent’s
Is this for real? If so, is this new??
Anonymous
05/01/2022 13:49
Subject: Restraints talk to me ASFS parent’s
Anonymous wrote:I’ve had kids at asfs for over a decade and never heard of this. One of my kids was literally strangled five years ago (had bruises on his neck for several weeks, they called an ambulance at the time), and the kid who did it was not sent to a restraining room.
Well you have one now.
Anonymous
04/30/2022 21:21
Subject: Restraints talk to me ASFS parent’s
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’ve had kids at asfs for over a decade and never heard of this. One of my kids was literally strangled five years ago (had bruises on his neck for several weeks, they called an ambulance at the time), and the kid who did it was not sent to a restraining room.
Not OP but they are not talking about interactions with other students. They are talking about restraint/seclusion by staff.
Ok, but if there’s ever a reason to retrain a kid strangulation would be at the top of the list.
Anonymous
04/30/2022 20:57
Subject: Restraints talk to me ASFS parent’s
Anonymous wrote:I’ve had kids at asfs for over a decade and never heard of this. One of my kids was literally strangled five years ago (had bruises on his neck for several weeks, they called an ambulance at the time), and the kid who did it was not sent to a restraining room.
Not OP but they are not talking about interactions with other students. They are talking about restraint/seclusion by staff.
Anonymous
04/30/2022 20:04
Subject: Restraints talk to me ASFS parent’s
I’ve had kids at asfs for over a decade and never heard of this. One of my kids was literally strangled five years ago (had bruises on his neck for several weeks, they called an ambulance at the time), and the kid who did it was not sent to a restraining room.
Anonymous
04/30/2022 18:36
Subject: Restraints talk to me ASFS parent’s
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How are children being restrained?
Are parents notified when this happens?
How old are the kids/ grades?
Has your kid been to the restraining room? How often?
WTAF are you talking about??? RESTRAINING ROOM??
Not OP, but they're probably talking about use of physical restraint for students who are behaving in ways that endanger their own or others' safety. There are staff members who are trained in Ukeru, Mandt, or PCM for these situations. Some schools also use isolation/ seclusion rooms although those are being phased out. It's extraordinarily rare for either of these scenarios to happen to a kid who isn't already on a behavior plan or in the process of getting one. The exceptions would probably be if someone has a psychotic break or reaction to drugs or instigates a fight or something. Parents are supposed to be notified asap when it happens.
Anonymous
04/30/2022 16:30
Subject: Restraints talk to me ASFS parent’s
Anonymous wrote:How are children being restrained?
Are parents notified when this happens?
How old are the kids/ grades?
Has your kid been to the restraining room? How often?
WTAF are you talking about??? RESTRAINING ROOM??
Anonymous
04/30/2022 15:37
Subject: Restraints talk to me ASFS parent’s
A restraining room??
Anonymous
04/30/2022 15:07
Subject: Restraints talk to me ASFS parent’s
Ignore typo title
Anonymous
04/30/2022 15:03
Subject: Restraints talk to me ASFS parent’s
How are children being restrained?
Are parents notified when this happens?
How old are the kids/ grades?
Has your kid been to the restraining room? How often?
Are parents notified when this happens?
How old are the kids/ grades?
Has your kid been to the restraining room? How often?