Anonymous
Post 04/02/2022 09:29     Subject: Re:Theories as to why this year's acceptances were so tough...
Seems like colleges forgot that there was a pandemic going on and those of use who behaved didn’t do group activities.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2022 09:23     Subject: Theories as to why this year's acceptances were so tough...
It’s always tough. This year is not remarkably different.

If anything 2021 was harder because of overhang of a huge gap year cohort from 2020, first intro of test blind/optional, Princeton cancelled their REA and accepted a smaller class etc.

Anonymous
Post 04/02/2022 09:17     Subject: Theories as to why this year's acceptances were so tough...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s a mystery

1. The top colleges have barely added any new seats to incoming classes in 40 years. Yet we have 3mm more HS graduates. That’s 300,000 more students in the top 10% if their class vying for that tiny number of seats.
2. Increased foreign applicants as the US tries to lure talent
3. COVID grade inflation made more kids think they were more accomplished than they really were
4. General dilution of the SAT. Since college board reverted to the 1600 scale from the 2400 scale, they did NOT return to the same scale as pre-2400. Todays scores equate to 60-100 points lower on the old 1600 scale.
5. Test optional gives more people a punchers chance. Note I am actually in favor of TO. I am a devout non-believer in the SAT/ACT and what they purport to measure.
6. Common App majes it ever easier to spam 20 schools. I applied to 4 schools in HS in the mid-90s. Each application had to be typed on a typewriter or hand filled in. Tedious.
7. The ever-increasing influence of stupid rankings, combined with anxiety over being one of the have nots if you don’t get into a top 20.


Agree but I need
More explanation on #4.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/05/11/why-your-new-sat-score-is-not-as-strong-as-you-think-it-is/
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2022 09:11     Subject: Theories as to why this year's acceptances were so tough...
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s a mystery

1. The top colleges have barely added any new seats to incoming classes in 40 years. Yet we have 3mm more HS graduates. That’s 300,000 more students in the top 10% if their class vying for that tiny number of seats.
2. Increased foreign applicants as the US tries to lure talent
3. COVID grade inflation made more kids think they were more accomplished than they really were
4. General dilution of the SAT. Since college board reverted to the 1600 scale from the 2400 scale, they did NOT return to the same scale as pre-2400. Todays scores equate to 60-100 points lower on the old 1600 scale.
5. Test optional gives more people a punchers chance. Note I am actually in favor of TO. I am a devout non-believer in the SAT/ACT and what they purport to measure.
6. Common App majes it ever easier to spam 20 schools. I applied to 4 schools in HS in the mid-90s. Each application had to be typed on a typewriter or hand filled in. Tedious.
7. The ever-increasing influence of stupid rankings, combined with anxiety over being one of the have nots if you don’t get into a top 20.


The Atlantic article quoted above disagrees with your #1:
Over the past two decades, the number of applications submitted to colleges has increased more than 150 percent, even as the size of high-school graduating classes has remained fairly stable.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2022 09:07     Subject: Theories as to why this year's acceptances were so tough...
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s a mystery

1. The top colleges have barely added any new seats to incoming classes in 40 years. Yet we have 3mm more HS graduates. That’s 300,000 more students in the top 10% if their class vying for that tiny number of seats.
2. Increased foreign applicants as the US tries to lure talent
3. COVID grade inflation made more kids think they were more accomplished than they really were
4. General dilution of the SAT. Since college board reverted to the 1600 scale from the 2400 scale, they did NOT return to the same scale as pre-2400. Todays scores equate to 60-100 points lower on the old 1600 scale.
5. Test optional gives more people a punchers chance. Note I am actually in favor of TO. I am a devout non-believer in the SAT/ACT and what they purport to measure.
6. Common App majes it ever easier to spam 20 schools. I applied to 4 schools in HS in the mid-90s. Each application had to be typed on a typewriter or hand filled in. Tedious.
7. The ever-increasing influence of stupid rankings, combined with anxiety over being one of the have nots if you don’t get into a top 20.



The common app makes it easier for general info but I personally thought the essay prompts were more exhausting for my DS. I don’t know how people get their kids to do 20. Mine did 8 and that was too much! Three of those were Ivies so maybe that’s why it was too much but I still thought the process was a lot.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2022 09:02     Subject: Theories as to why this year's acceptances were so tough...
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s a mystery

1. The top colleges have barely added any new seats to incoming classes in 40 years. Yet we have 3mm more HS graduates. That’s 300,000 more students in the top 10% if their class vying for that tiny number of seats.
2. Increased foreign applicants as the US tries to lure talent
3. COVID grade inflation made more kids think they were more accomplished than they really were
4. General dilution of the SAT. Since college board reverted to the 1600 scale from the 2400 scale, they did NOT return to the same scale as pre-2400. Todays scores equate to 60-100 points lower on the old 1600 scale.
5. Test optional gives more people a punchers chance. Note I am actually in favor of TO. I am a devout non-believer in the SAT/ACT and what they purport to measure.
6. Common App majes it ever easier to spam 20 schools. I applied to 4 schools in HS in the mid-90s. Each application had to be typed on a typewriter or hand filled in. Tedious.
7. The ever-increasing influence of stupid rankings, combined with anxiety over being one of the have nots if you don’t get into a top 20.


Agree but I need
More explanation on #4.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2022 08:56     Subject: Theories as to why this year's acceptances were so tough...
Because your kid was part of it so it felt much more real and personal.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2022 08:54     Subject: Theories as to why this year's acceptances were so tough...
I don’t think it’s a mystery

1. The top colleges have barely added any new seats to incoming classes in 40 years. Yet we have 3mm more HS graduates. That’s 300,000 more students in the top 10% if their class vying for that tiny number of seats.
2. Increased foreign applicants as the US tries to lure talent
3. COVID grade inflation made more kids think they were more accomplished than they really were
4. General dilution of the SAT. Since college board reverted to the 1600 scale from the 2400 scale, they did NOT return to the same scale as pre-2400. Todays scores equate to 60-100 points lower on the old 1600 scale.
5. Test optional gives more people a punchers chance. Note I am actually in favor of TO. I am a devout non-believer in the SAT/ACT and what they purport to measure.
6. Common App majes it ever easier to spam 20 schools. I applied to 4 schools in HS in the mid-90s. Each application had to be typed on a typewriter or hand filled in. Tedious.
7. The ever-increasing influence of stupid rankings, combined with anxiety over being one of the have nots if you don’t get into a top 20.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2022 08:53     Subject: Re:Theories as to why this year's acceptances were so tough...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This question gets asked every year. You only think it’s an unusual year because your kid was part of it.


Statistics are not your strong suit.


Sorry you’re disappointed in your kid’s results.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2022 08:51     Subject: Re:Theories as to why this year's acceptances were so tough...
Anonymous wrote:This question gets asked every year. You only think it’s an unusual year because your kid was part of it.


Statistics are not your strong suit.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2022 08:42     Subject: Re:Theories as to why this year's acceptances were so tough...
Wasn't any tougher than any of the other years - Mom of 4.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2022 08:41     Subject: Theories as to why this year's acceptances were so tough...
Applications have been increasing.
More selective schools are filling their spots with early decision.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/change-college-acceptance-application-process/627581/
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2022 08:37     Subject: Theories as to why this year's acceptances were so tough...
Increase in international applications?
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2022 08:37     Subject: Re:Theories as to why this year's acceptances were so tough...
This question gets asked every year. You only think it’s an unusual year because your kid was part of it.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2022 08:34     Subject: Theories as to why this year's acceptances were so tough...
Is it due to COVID? Is it because most universities went test optional? Is it because more students applied to more schools?

What are your thoughts?