Anonymous
03/06/2022 00:33
Subject: Re:Does this look like price fixing where most private tuition is around 60k.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Welcome to 2022!
"1) The broad availability of federally backed student loans, which directly correlate to the cost of college."
The amount that a student can borrow from the federal government has absolutely no relationship to the cost of college anywhere but perhaps at a community college. College tuition has increased a rate that is completely disconnected from the rate at which Stafford loan amounts have increased.
Reading comprehension. The broad availability correlates to the overall cost. No link was asserted between rates of increase.
That makes no sense.
Anonymous
03/06/2022 00:11
Subject: Re:Does this look like price fixing where most private tuition is around 60k.
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to 2022!
"1) The broad availability of federally backed student loans, which directly correlate to the cost of college."
The amount that a student can borrow from the federal government has absolutely no relationship to the cost of college anywhere but perhaps at a community college. College tuition has increased a rate that is completely disconnected from the rate at which Stafford loan amounts have increased.
Reading comprehension. The broad availability correlates to the overall cost. No link was asserted between rates of increase.
Anonymous
03/06/2022 00:02
Subject: Re:Does this look like price fixing where most private tuition is around 60k.
Welcome to 2022!
"1) The broad availability of federally backed student loans, which directly correlate to the cost of college."
The amount that a student can borrow from the federal government has absolutely no relationship to the cost of college anywhere but perhaps at a community college. College tuition has increased a rate that is completely disconnected from the rate at which Stafford loan amounts have increased.
"1) The broad availability of federally backed student loans, which directly correlate to the cost of college."
The amount that a student can borrow from the federal government has absolutely no relationship to the cost of college anywhere but perhaps at a community college. College tuition has increased a rate that is completely disconnected from the rate at which Stafford loan amounts have increased.
Anonymous
03/05/2022 23:23
Subject: Does this look like price fixing where most private tuition is around 60k.
It is absolutely price fixing. They know suckers will pay.
Anonymous
03/05/2022 23:19
Subject: Re:Does this look like price fixing where most private tuition is around 60k.
The list price is whatever it is, but the net price is all over the board, especially for the somewhat less competitive schools and the most desirable applicants.
Anonymous
03/05/2022 18:53
Subject: Re:Does this look like price fixing where most private tuition is around 60k.
It does reflect a problem with the market for college, though probably not price fixing. Rather, the cost is inflated by three things:
1) The broad availability of federally backed student loans, which directly correlate to the cost of college,
2) The increased demand for non-educational amenities in higher education, and
3) The cost of administrative salaries for the people who oversee the development of these non-educational amenities (as well as, ostensibly, the educational offerings for the school.
They drive up the cost of both public and private colleges. School see those federal loans as, essentially, free money -- students can access it easily regardless of their financial status, and the burden falls entirely on the student. Thus college magically costs more. But as colleges cost more, there is also a demand for a better "experience" to reflect that higher cost, which drives colleges to spend more money on things like gyms, nicer dorms, better dining halls and restaurants, and other things that while nice to have, do not actually augment the educational experience at the school (or make any of the graduates better prepared for future careers).
Of course, those loans aren't actually free money, just ask the students who borrow them. And since the increased costs don't actually purchase a higher quality education than 20, 30, or 40 years ago, we should really all be questioning whether "nice amenities" is the must-have college feature a lot of people seem to think it is.
It would be amazing if more colleges realized this and offered high value college degrees -- fantastic professors and academic facilities and offerings, but a more bare bones living experience to keep costs down. The problem is that we have come to associate a quality education with something more luxurious -- ivy covered, landscaped, etc. And our kids pay the price for this misunderstanding of value.
1) The broad availability of federally backed student loans, which directly correlate to the cost of college,
2) The increased demand for non-educational amenities in higher education, and
3) The cost of administrative salaries for the people who oversee the development of these non-educational amenities (as well as, ostensibly, the educational offerings for the school.
They drive up the cost of both public and private colleges. School see those federal loans as, essentially, free money -- students can access it easily regardless of their financial status, and the burden falls entirely on the student. Thus college magically costs more. But as colleges cost more, there is also a demand for a better "experience" to reflect that higher cost, which drives colleges to spend more money on things like gyms, nicer dorms, better dining halls and restaurants, and other things that while nice to have, do not actually augment the educational experience at the school (or make any of the graduates better prepared for future careers).
Of course, those loans aren't actually free money, just ask the students who borrow them. And since the increased costs don't actually purchase a higher quality education than 20, 30, or 40 years ago, we should really all be questioning whether "nice amenities" is the must-have college feature a lot of people seem to think it is.
It would be amazing if more colleges realized this and offered high value college degrees -- fantastic professors and academic facilities and offerings, but a more bare bones living experience to keep costs down. The problem is that we have come to associate a quality education with something more luxurious -- ivy covered, landscaped, etc. And our kids pay the price for this misunderstanding of value.
Anonymous
03/05/2022 18:42
Subject: Does this look like price fixing where most private tuition is around 60k.
It seems to me there is gentleman’s agreement.