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Anonymous wrote:They are economic migrants, they are bouncing from country to country, trying to find opportunities and ways to get to the west.

Is the west obligated to take them? Especially now, when they are dealing with actual war refugees?

Why aren't these mostly young and able-bodied people trying to make their own countries a better place?

So ignorant. Some are students.

Some are students. Most are illegal economic immigrants.

It’s hard for everyone in Ukraine, and really hard for international students.

Here’s a good article about the situation: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/27/im-very-worried-african-students-caught-in-ukraine-russia-war

These folks have had two weeks notice to get out. Ukraine is fighting a war of aggression. It owes nothing to foreign nationals who decided to stay until the last possible second and are now want their host country to divert resources to ensure their safety. They can take up a gun and fight, or they can hunker down.

This is pretty much it.

Anonymous wrote:They are economic migrants, they are bouncing from country to country, trying to find opportunities and ways to get to the west.

Is the west obligated to take them? Especially now, when they are dealing with actual war refugees?

Why aren't these mostly young and able-bodied people trying to make their own countries a better place?

I guess you would not be here to post, had your ancestors who immigrated to the US stayed in their country of origin and tried to make it a better place.

Anonymous wrote:Just saw video of how the African and black students are being treated trying to escape .
As an African American screw you Ukraine and Poland.

Nothing bad to say about Russia, of course.

Anonymous wrote:Ukrainian border guards are prioritizing Ukrainian citizens in border crossing. It’s not clear in the reporting I’ve seen how differently British or French nationals, say, are being treated than citizens of African countries.

The US sent troops to Poland specifically to help american citizens cross and get back home.

DP.

Some observations:

There's a black american in Ukraine who has been covering the invasion for The Root, CNN, etc. Terrell something? He's listed in other dcum threads. He is staying. He seems to have a lot of local friends who are fighting in the resistance. He hasn't discussed racism. He seems like a happy resident fully enmeshed in the local culture.

I did however notice CNN coverage of people fleeing Ukraine yesterday in cars and on foot. Despite the fact that men of a certain age aren't allowed to leave (at least that's what I heard), I saw a lot of men of color walking with suitcases in an effort to cross the border and get the heck out of dodge.

Here's what I know about the region--including Poland: it's very, very white. The US is far more colorful and diverse, and our racism pales in comparison to the overt white nationalist movement in Poland specifically.

I tend to agree with a PP that most non-whites in Ukraine are economic migrants without real connection with or loyalty to Ukraine. They're just looking for a safe place to live and work; this isn't their fight. Can't say I blame them.

As Michael Che said last night on SNL, it's weird to see a country invading a white country. Very unusual. I suspect many of the people of color fleeing Ukraine have BTDT in unstable countries and just want to find a better place to settle.

Ukrainian border guards are prioritizing Ukrainian citizens in border crossing. It’s not clear in the reporting I’ve seen how differently British or French nationals, say, are being treated than citizens of African countries.

Anonymous wrote:These folks have had two weeks notice to get out. Ukraine is fighting a war of aggression. It owes nothing to foreign nationals who decided to stay until the last possible second and are now want their host country to divert resources to ensure their safety. They can take up a gun and fight, or they can hunker down.

+1

The OP is hard to trust anyway - no links or citations, just a sulky, reactionary couple lines. I can't stand these self-righteous 12-year olds.

These folks have had two weeks notice to get out. Ukraine is fighting a war of aggression. It owes nothing to foreign nationals who decided to stay until the last possible second and are now want their host country to divert resources to ensure their safety. They can take up a gun and fight, or they can hunker down.

Anonymous wrote:They are economic migrants, they are bouncing from country to country, trying to find opportunities and ways to get to the west.

Is the west obligated to take them? Especially now, when they are dealing with actual war refugees?

Why aren't these mostly young and able-bodied people trying to make their own countries a better place?

So ignorant. Some are students.

They are economic migrants, they are bouncing from country to country, trying to find opportunities and ways to get to the west.

Is the west obligated to take them? Especially now, when they are dealing with actual war refugees?

Why aren't these mostly young and able-bodied people trying to make their own countries a better place?

Source?

I keep seeing black people on SM saying they don't care about Ukraine (and 6 months ago about AFG) , presumably because they feel mistreated. I get that but cutting off your nose to spite your face and all that...

They might care when democracy falls everywhere. We are all connected these days.

please post resources

Just saw video of how the African and black students are being treated trying to escape .
As an African American screw you Ukraine and Poland.