Women put more premium on looks because in our species men are the ones assumed to be making the choice to approach. If we were the other way around, like peacocks, we'd see more men primping.

Its weird. I am straight guy and I have a really hard time guessing which non-fat men are attractive and which are not. I have been surprised many times when at a bar with a female friends who remark on which particular man they find attractive.

Probably because it is more socially common for women to do upkeep around hair and nails, get Botox, wear makeup, etc. Easy for a few small touches like that to take an average woman to above average.

My wife is way hotter than I deserve but she has said before that I’m better looking than she is.

I once knew a man who judged men's attractiveness on whether they would be attractive as a woman -- the assumption being that almost any man would be more attractive as a woman.

I think so. My uncles and Brothers are weird looking by my aunts and sisters, in their hey day, were hot.

Women certainly think so. 🙄🙄🙄

No. Attractiveness is a social construct, so it's impossible to say who is truly attractive.

Yes, up until the women is 30. After 30, men become more attractive.

Yes.

Dating statistics back that up.

Men judge women on a normal distribution

Women are highly highly skewed on what they consider attractive.

I do think as a general rule, once naked more in fact most women are more beautiful than most men.

I didn’t understand that other thread either. I think my DH is very handsome. And much more to appreciate around me, too. But then again I don’t spend a lot of time consuming media that would lead me to look for airbrushed model look. Regular people still seem incredibly beautiful to me.

I’m a woman and see handsome men everywhere. You’d have to be blind not to.

As a dude, that other thread shocked me. Multiple women saying they don't know a single handsome man?

The question wasn't even 'do you know any gorgeous men?'. It was just handsome men.

I'm a guy in my mid 40s and I see other men that I would think would qualify as handsome almost every day.

I'd be really curious to see what some of these women look like themselves, to think that they aren't any handsome men around.

But to answer your question, no, I think think most things end up pretty equal. Same amount of attractiveness across genders

In general do you see more attractive women then men in the DC area? Or in the US in general? The other thread about attractive men made me think - I probably have only met a handful of truly attractive men in my life. Sure after getting to know them they become more attractive but stop me in my tracks attractive only a few. But I see attractive women a lot. Is that because they put more effort into keeping themselves up? Thoughts?