GKDad
Post 07/20/2022 22:16     Subject: Re:2008 Girls Discussion
FPYCparent wrote:Unconfirmed, but I'm hearing that:

GF-R 2008 top team basically disbanded with players moving to other clubs
McLean, Loudoun, and Villareal do not have 2008 teams in ECNL-RL for the fall season
FCV United and Herndon have 2008 teams in ECNL-RL for the fall season (Are these teams filling in a slot for MYS, LS, or ViVA?)

Does any of this sound correct?


As I understand it, Villareal, FCV and TSJ have been filling slots for each other as part of their partnership, and Villareal itself hasn't had an 08 group for a couple years now, so that piece could make sense (FCV using the VIVA spot).

Can't imagine McLean wouldn't field a team. They dropped their CCL affiliation, so I assume the Green team (first team below Union) that played CCL last year goes RL.
TedLasso
Post 07/20/2022 13:13     Subject: Re:2008 Girls Discussion
FPYCparent wrote:Unconfirmed, but I'm hearing that:

GF-R 2008 top team basically disbanded with players moving to other clubs
McLean, Loudoun, and Villareal do not have 2008 teams in ECNL-RL for the fall season
FCV United and Herndon have 2008 teams in ECNL-RL for the fall season (Are these teams filling in a slot for MYS, LS, or ViVA?)

Does any of this sound correct?


I thought I’ve heard in the past that even for RL that clubs have to field teams in every age group. Maybe I’m incorrect.
dcu13
Post 05/13/2022 10:24     Subject: Re:2008 Girls Discussion
Arch wrote:There is a huge vote tonight that will determine the fate of both sides.

How did the big vote go?
dcu13
Post 05/11/2022 17:00     Subject: Re:2008 Girls Discussion
Arch wrote:
Bridge teams are BRYC travel teams created by and led by volunteer coaches (i.e. parents). They mostly used to play in ODSL until that folded and now they all play in NCSL Bridge teams within the same age group compete for players and have no unified coaching philosophy or training or style of play. But, they have historically have had the pipeline into the BRYC rec program because the bridge coaches largely were rec coaches who took top players from rec to start travel teams. Bridge teams think of themselves as part of the rec program for the most part and the rec program definitely claims the bridge teams and their coaches and players as their own. Because they are volunteer led, their costs are significantly cheaper as a travel option--significantly cheaper than any travel option in the DMV. They have several great players at each age group but those could be spread out among bridge teams and of course not part of the academy.

The academy has paid coaches, and their prices are competitive with the other travel clubs in the area. They use a player pool system also similar to most other clubs in the area that field multiple teams across age groups. They have almost no pipeline into the rec program, however, and therefore often are looking at scraps from the rec program by the time they do get a look at them--leftovers of players who perhaps weren't good enough to go travel with a bridge team early on, or weren't interested at the time. Therefore BRYC as a club pretty much never has a team that fields their top players (across bridge and the academy) within any age group. Ever. And you can see the results.

There is a huge vote tonight that will determine the fate of both sides.


Thanks for the response. Very helpful. It almost sounds like 2 separate clubs that share the same name.
Arch
Post 05/11/2022 16:38     Subject: Re:2008 Girls Discussion
dcu13 wrote:What exactly are the "bridge" teams you all are talking about?


Bridge teams are BRYC travel teams created by and led by volunteer coaches (i.e. parents). They mostly used to play in ODSL until that folded and now they all play in NCSL Bridge teams within the same age group compete for players and have no unified coaching philosophy or training or style of play. But, they have historically have had the pipeline into the BRYC rec program because the bridge coaches largely were rec coaches who took top players from rec to start travel teams. Bridge teams think of themselves as part of the rec program for the most part and the rec program definitely claims the bridge teams and their coaches and players as their own. Because they are volunteer led, their costs are significantly cheaper as a travel option--significantly cheaper than any travel option in the DMV. They have several great players at each age group but those could be spread out among bridge teams and of course not part of the academy.

The academy has paid coaches, and their prices are competitive with the other travel clubs in the area. They use a player pool system also similar to most other clubs in the area that field multiple teams across age groups. They have almost no pipeline into the rec program, however, and therefore often are looking at scraps from the rec program by the time they do get a look at them--leftovers of players who perhaps weren't good enough to go travel with a bridge team early on, or weren't interested at the time. Therefore BRYC as a club pretty much never has a team that fields their top players (across bridge and the academy) within any age group. Ever. And you can see the results.

There is a huge vote tonight that will determine the fate of both sides.
dcu13
Post 05/11/2022 10:40     Subject: Re:2008 Girls Discussion
What exactly are the "bridge" teams you all are talking about?
Arch
Post 05/10/2022 16:32     Subject: Re:2008 Girls Discussion
FPYCparent wrote:Points noted.

The fee numbers are what I was able to pull off of websites today. It is difficult to get a complete set of fees, as noted, because some clubs only list club fees and team fees. Tournament fees, futsal fees, and summer league fees may also apply. I've added clickable links to the sources of the numbers I used. See below.

I can only speak for the numbers from DD's FPYC squad. I think the players who got goalkeeper training may have paid an additional $200. I think uniforms are $90, but the club is long overdue for a refresh post-COVID.

For BRYC, are the EDP teams moving to ECNL-RL? If so, do the Bridge teams them move to EDP next year ... or will they stay with NCSL?

Also, I understand that ECNL-RL (for VA) U15 and up only plays in the fall. I presume that avoids a conflict with high school soccer in the spring. Do some ECNL-RL teams choose to play in NCSL or EDP instead?



Team---------------------------------------League----------Team Level-------Fees (includes all specified fees; clickable links)
BRYC ECNL GU14--------------------------ECNL-------------A------------------$3,050 **Fairfax BRAVE (with Vienna) for U15
(McLean + SYC) VA Union ECNL GU14---ECNL-------------A------------------$2,700
Arlington Soccer ECNL GU14--------------ECNL-------------A------------------$3,300
Loudoun Soccer ECNL GU14---------------ECNL-------------A-----------------$FEE
VDA ECNL GU14----------------------------ECNL-------------A-----------------$2,850
Non-DMV teams removed

Arlington Soccer RL GU14-----------------ECNL-RL (VA)----B-----------------$2,690
Great Falls Reston Soccer Club RL GU14--ECNL-RL (VA)---A-----------------$2,500
Loudoun Soccer RL GU14-----------------ECNL-RL (VA)----B-----------------$2,490
McLean 2008 Girls Green-----------------ECNL-RL (VA)----B-----------------$2,500 **Moving from CCL National for U15
PWSI Courage RL GU14-------------------ECNL-RL (VA)---A------------------$FEE
Stafford Revolution RL GU14--------------ECNL-RL (VA)---A------------------$FEE
VA Valor 2008 Gold-----------------------ECNL-RL (VA)-----A-----------------$3,000 **Moving from CCL National for U15
Vienna Youth Soccer RL GU14------------ECNL-RL (VA)----A-----------------$3,000
Villarreal VA RL GU14---------------------ECNL-RL (VA)----A-----------------$2,400
VSA RL GU14------------------------------ECNL-RL (VA)----A-----------------$2,275

Alexandria Soccer 2008 Girls White------NCSL D1---------B------------------$FEE
Arlington Soccer 2008G White-----------NCSL D1----------C------------------$2,340
BRYC Elite Academy '08G Black----------NCSL D1----------C-----------------$655 **Bridge team staying for U15 ... or moving to EDP?
FPYC United Blue 08----------------------NCSL D1----------A-----------------$1,600
Loudoun Soccer 08G Black---------------NCSL D1----------C-----------------$2,490
McLean 2008 Girls White-----------------NCSL D1----------C-----------------$1,900
SYC 2008G Blue--------------------------NCSL D1-----------B-----------------$2,050
SYC Academy 2009G---------------------NCSL D1-----------A (2009)--------$1,900
Vienna Youth Soccer 08G Black----------NCSL D1----------B-----------------$3,000
VSA 08G Premier Red--------------------NCSL D1-----------B-----------------$1,950


This is a hugely helpful listing--it probably deserves it's own thread so it gets more looks!
Regarding the Bridge guestion--Bridge teams will remain in NCSL, that is really the only option available to them. That is, unless there is a titanic shift based on the BRYC Board Elections and the academy can get outright control of how travel is implemented and the recreational-program-spawned Bridge teams decide to secede and form a different travel entity called Braddock FC--but even then they would just remain in NCSL. Stay tuned.
Arch
Post 05/09/2022 16:16     Subject: Re:2008 Girls Discussion
FPYCparent wrote:Doing a little VA-only comparison "looking." Aside from my poor formatting, does this information seem kinda accurate? (I have URLs for most of the fee pages, if posted)

...

I'll make edits as I get better info.


One other comment is context is missing among many of these fees. Some clubs include club fees, which cover some of the tournaments, while others charge for tournaments as an add-on and therefore make their fees look lower.
Arch
Post 05/09/2022 16:11     Subject: Re:2008 Girls Discussion
FPYCparent wrote:Doing a little VA-only comparison "looking." Aside from my poor formatting, does this information seem kinda accurate? ...


BRYC Elite Academy '08G Black is a Bridge team, and Bridge fees are listed as only $655, not $2,150. Not sure what you mean by the moving to EDP note, except I think you mis-interpreted that team to be part of the Academy, and they are not.
Bridge teams will be in NCSL unless those coaches want to move their teams to other clubs that may play in other leagues. Academy teams that aren't ECNL would be playing in ECNL-RL.
GKDad
Post 03/24/2022 14:42     Subject: Re:2008 Girls Discussion
FPYCparent wrote:Looking at the ECNL and USYS announcements, I wonder if these bolded 2008G teams will be left in CCL next year:

CCL National 2021: http://elements.demosphere.com/75011/schedules/2021/103126093.html

FC Frederick 08 G (MD) - to USYS
Virginia Rush 2008 Girls (VA)
VA Valor 08G Gold
Alexandria 2008 Girls Red (VA) - to USYS
McLean 2008 Girls Green (VA) - ECNL-RL?
LMVSC Patriots 2008 Girls CCL (VA) - to USYS
NVSC 08G CCL Premiership (VA)
SYC 2008G Academy - Already in NCSL in addition to CCL
FC Richmond NO TEAM
Herndon NO TEAM
VBR Star NO TEAM (VA)


CCL Regional 2021: http://elements.demosphere.com/75011/schedules/2021/103129446.html

Flight A
Barca Academy 2008G Red - to USYS or EDP?
DC Soccer Club Red Metros 08 - to USYS or EDP?
VA Valor 08G White
Northern Piedmont SC United 08'G
WVFC 07/08G Red
Potomac White 08
FSCI Phoenix 2008G (VA)
FC Frederick 08 Royal G (MD) - to EDP?


McLean and Valor have already announced they are going to RL next year (along with FC Richmond and BRYC)
novasoccer15324
Post 03/18/2022 21:03     Subject: 2008 Girls Discussion
If anyone is curious, heres all of the local ECNL teams playing the same team from south carolina. Cant find a video of VDA vs CESA but did find a video of NC fusion.



Mclean union vs CESA
https://youtu.be/mVdwyA6REI4

Loudon vs CESA
https://youtu.be/5g27nONtA58

Braddock road vs CESA
https://youtu.be/mKhwwR4_KlA

Arlington vs CESA
https://youtu.be/I-1iTJe2JYk

VDA vs NC fusion
https://youtu.be/d-pqKyzEcqk
SoccerSkeptic
Post 03/01/2022 11:22     Subject: Re:2008 Girls Discussion
greypanther wrote:
FPYCparent wrote:Initial Spring 2022 divisions have been announced for NCSL.

http://ncsl-soccer.com/division-structure

Taking a quick look at the 2008/U14 girls divisions, ...

The bottom three finishers from the fall have moved to Divison 2 from Division 1 (Leesburg FC Thunder, Great Falls 08 United, and and PWSI Courage Classic). Those teams have been replaced by the two top finishers from Division 2 (Alexandria White and Vienna YS Black). SYC's 2009 Academy also appears in U14 D1, after seemingly playing in CCL and EDP last season as U13.

The two bottom finishers in D2 (CSA Courange and PPA Green) move from Division 2 to Division 3. The two top finishers from D3 (MRM Rush Vikings and Lee-Mount Vernon Patriots-NCSL) move up to D2.

The only other change for D3 is the lack of "CALV LESC."

...

Spring schedules for USYS EDP and "vanilla" EDP are also out.

https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/12931

https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/13255

...

The other leagues (ECNL/GA/ENCL RL/CCL) remain intact from the fall.


When do they usually release schedules? (Ncsl)


Schedule release for this spring is on their website: Friday, March 11th.
greypanther
Post 03/01/2022 10:43     Subject: Re:2008 Girls Discussion
FPYCparent wrote:Initial Spring 2022 divisions have been announced for NCSL.

http://ncsl-soccer.com/division-structure

Taking a quick look at the 2008/U14 girls divisions, ...

The bottom three finishers from the fall have moved to Divison 2 from Division 1 (Leesburg FC Thunder, Great Falls 08 United, and and PWSI Courage Classic). Those teams have been replaced by the two top finishers from Division 2 (Alexandria White and Vienna YS Black). SYC's 2009 Academy also appears in U14 D1, after seemingly playing in CCL and EDP last season as U13.

The two bottom finishers in D2 (CSA Courange and PPA Green) move from Division 2 to Division 3. The two top finishers from D3 (MRM Rush Vikings and Lee-Mount Vernon Patriots-NCSL) move up to D2.

The only other change for D3 is the lack of "CALV LESC."

...

Spring schedules for USYS EDP and "vanilla" EDP are also out.

https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/12931

https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/13255

...

The other leagues (ECNL/GA/ENCL RL/CCL) remain intact from the fall.


When do they usually release schedules? (Ncsl)
GirlDadTwice
Post 02/07/2022 10:34     Subject: 2008 Girls Discussion
Arlington 1 Loudoun 0 on Saturday (ECNL)

Freezing cold but both teams played very hard!
Lasso_FC_Girls
Post 02/03/2022 08:33     Subject: 2008 Girls Discussion
Since this age group thread was so active before the new restriction, figure its time to start a new one. I'm sure it will be much cleaner this time around.