The summer jobs I had in college (nannying) were unrelated to my post college work (assistant in a finance department, public affairs, and eventually program management). I did do a more career related internship one summer and had a career related internship a few hours a week during the school year, but I don’t think it matters too much.

This is not your problem. What does HE want to do? Don't worry about his social life - that is something for him to sot out. Encourage him to think about the pros and cons and what is realistic for himself, and to make a good decision. Then support him whatever he decides.

Sounds like a good summer job. It's his decision, not yours, though.

Omg he’s 20. If he wants to do it why do you have any say? You k PE there are lots of people who work 3-11 right? My spouse works 4-midnight.

Anonymous wrote:Please don’t take this the wrong way, but are you very poor? Why else would you have your college student son perform manual third shift labor in the summer for only 25 dollars an hour? It is very hard on the body, not just the work but the hours. Businesses are desperate for workers and 40 dollars an hour is too little for what they are asking.

Young people are night owls to begin with, many played video games from 11-7am. It’s not a big deal. But I will highly recommend he gets some skills that align with his future, develops some curiosity and work on communications. Manual labor reduced a persons ability to think creatively long term.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s time to land a professional internship, a promotion of bagging ice isn’t transferable to the full time job he is targeting in 2 years.

As a hiring manager, I disagree. I would much rather interview this candidate than someone whose parents pulled strings to get them a fancy-sounding internship.

A lot of faang, consulting or investment banks don’t have hiring managers, they have HC and uses their python to sort candidates by their intern keywords.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s time to land a professional internship, a promotion of bagging ice isn’t transferable to the full time job he is targeting in 2 years.

As a hiring manager, I disagree. I would much rather interview this candidate than someone whose parents pulled strings to get them a fancy-sounding internship.

+1 Same. If a young person is reliable at a 2nd shift summer job, they will show up for my reasonably cushy office position and not make a fuss about every little thing. I think this is his choice to make, but I wouldn't worry too much about the social life aspect, he's got weekends off and he can meet up with friends after his shift is over-there is plenty going on between 11-1.

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I think one summer of manual labor is great -- shows a strong work ethic. And, good to have this as an option for this summer but he should also be doing the work to find something at least somewhat related to his field of study. The most important internship summer is after junior year and doing something at least a little related the summer after sophomore year puts you in a better position to be competitive for that post-junior-year internship.

My son (current college freshman) spent last summer working at a job where he had to be there every day at 6am. They'd like him back this summer and it's good to know he has a fallback option but is also pursuing other options that are also mostly low-level grunt work but at least expose him to his field.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s time to land a professional internship, a promotion of bagging ice isn’t transferable to the full time job he is targeting in 2 years.

As a hiring manager, I disagree. I would much rather interview this candidate than someone whose parents pulled strings to get them a fancy-sounding internship.

+1 Same. If a young person is reliable at a 2nd shift summer job, they will show up for my reasonably cushy office position and not make a fuss about every little thing. I think this is his choice to make, but I wouldn't worry too much about the social life aspect, he's got weekends off and he can meet up with friends after his shift is over-there is plenty going on between 11-1.

80 k a year for bagging ice is too little??? my daughter and SIL make much less with post-college professional jobs.

that is definitely more than most teachers get paid.

is it a hard job? yes. is 80k not enough for this job. no.

OP i also think a n internship in his field might serve him better with regards to getting a job when he graduates. kids i know who had no internship experience had a tough time getting a job.

Please don’t take this the wrong way, but are you very poor? Why else would you have your college student son perform manual third shift labor in the summer for only 25 dollars an hour? It is very hard on the body, not just the work but the hours. Businesses are desperate for workers and 40 dollars an hour is too little for what they are asking.

Couple of thoughts ... a,) It's your kid's choice; b.) I do think that would look great on a resume. It's real work, with continuity and a promotion; c.) I guess it depends on your kid's social life ... mine would be FINE socializing mostly just weekends.

I'd give him my blessing and tell him to seek an internship next summer or during the school year.

Anonymous wrote:It’s time to land a professional internship, a promotion of bagging ice isn’t transferable to the full time job he is targeting in 2 years.

As a hiring manager, I disagree. I would much rather interview this candidate than someone whose parents pulled strings to get them a fancy-sounding internship.

It’s time to land a professional internship, a promotion of bagging ice isn’t transferable to the full time job he is targeting in 2 years.

Kid - now 20 - worked last summer at a job basically filling bags of ice and loading them on trucks. He was paid an hourly rate and then “bonuses” based largely on production. So - x dollars per loaded skid kind of thing. He spent most of the time last summer working the 3rd shift, so basically 11:00 pm to 7:00 am. Terrible for family and social life but good for $$$. He made about $25 and hour. He got a call from the facilities manager asking if he would come back as the 2nd shift supervisor (basically it would be him and two other guys). The pay would be approx $40 an hour as “supervisor” but it is 3:00 - 11:00. So - not as bad but it is Mon - Fri (Sat and Sun off).

My initial view is that is not bad. It’s “okay” resume stuff. 2 years same employer and second summer was a bit of a promotion. The money is very good. There is a lot of basically required overtime for 4th of July weekend and lead up to that but not much more than that week leading up to the 4th. So - my parent view is “take it”. Down side though is that it sucks for social life as it is hard labor so he would not be getting off work at 11 pm and meeting up with friends. It is work - come home - eat - shower - bed. Get up 9-10 am. Eat. Workout. Hand/eat for a couple hours then go back to work. Not much time for a social life.