Anonymous
01/28/2022 11:30
Subject: Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I knew him in our 20s. He’s incredibly socially awkward. I don’t understand why he’s managed to get this much prominence and I am completely befuddled as to why Georgetown law hired him
I know him as well. You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to smear him this way.
You know he is brilliant. At least admit what you know.
And Georgetown recognizes talent. Plus, Ilya is no racist - if you know him then you know that too.
I'll let others debate his character, and I get that he was trying to make a point, but you (and the Tim Carneys and Seth Mandels - hey, maybe it's one of you posting!) have to accept that posting those tweets was incredibly bad judgement and an embarrassment to Georgetown. There was a nasty racial undertone and he publicly pitted two justices on the DC Court of Appeals against each other. It's a very bad look. If I'm Georgetown I'm wondering if the talent outweighs some of the other questionable behavior. And we'd be having a frank discussion about what's expected from the Executive Director of the Center for the Constitution - online trolling is definitely not on the list.
Anonymous
01/28/2022 01:38
Subject: Re:Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The children of former soviets are some of the worst for this weird autocratic crap. I'm assuming just by his name that Ilya Shapiro falls into that category. It's a toxic soup of paranoia, distrust in government institutions, and the inability to function without having a boot on their neck. Ilya probably needs a big strong rich guy like Koch to tell him what to do.
And then they somehow tie it into them all being the saviors of western civilization...
It's seriously odd. Like some demented boy's fanfiction gone wrong
I am the person who posted previously about knowing him when we were in our 20s. You guessed right. He and his family moved to Canada from the Soviet union. They wanted to go to the United States but weren’t able to get in. His mother died when he was a teen and it was just he and his dad. He wanted to get to the states so he went there as an undergrad. When I knew him we were in London together and I think he was somehow trying to get to the states. Or maybe he and his father had already moved there and he already had the ability to.But I think maybe that was one of the reasons he went to law school, because he could get a visa. This may be somewhat inaccurate. But he definitely is originally from the Soviet union. He just seemed like this kid who had grown up in several different countries in a kind of uncomfortable way as an only child and then his mom died and he was kind of socially awkward in an often brush and insulting way. But I feel kind of bad for him because he didn’t seem to of had an easy life. There are probably a lot of typos in this because I’m doing it on my phone. Sorry
No, you're fine re: typos.
What you're saying makes me feel bad for him too. At least in the abstract. The vulture capitalism boy-heroic bullshit that Koch's acolytes are into makes my stomach turn, however.
(And I am, fwiw, not really a liberal. Except compared to these yahoos.)
Anonymous
01/28/2022 01:31
Subject: Re:Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic
(note: I was right. Former Soviet emigre.)
I grew up with a lot of kids who got out from behind the iron curtain in the 80s. I don't mean this to denigrate their struggles. But it is notable how many Cato and Federalist people fall into the former Soviet category, is what I am saying.
A conservative optimist might say that's because so many of them appreciate America, knowing what they left behind. I wish that was actually true. As a realist, looking at actions and intent, the truth seems far more cynical and calculated. They are the children of propaganda and autocrats. It's what Ilya gravitates toward because it is what he knows.
I grew up with a lot of kids who got out from behind the iron curtain in the 80s. I don't mean this to denigrate their struggles. But it is notable how many Cato and Federalist people fall into the former Soviet category, is what I am saying.
A conservative optimist might say that's because so many of them appreciate America, knowing what they left behind. I wish that was actually true. As a realist, looking at actions and intent, the truth seems far more cynical and calculated. They are the children of propaganda and autocrats. It's what Ilya gravitates toward because it is what he knows.
Anonymous
01/28/2022 01:29
Subject: Re:Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic
Anonymous wrote:The children of former soviets are some of the worst for this weird autocratic crap. I'm assuming just by his name that Ilya Shapiro falls into that category. It's a toxic soup of paranoia, distrust in government institutions, and the inability to function without having a boot on their neck. Ilya probably needs a big strong rich guy like Koch to tell him what to do.
And then they somehow tie it into them all being the saviors of western civilization...
It's seriously odd. Like some demented boy's fanfiction gone wrong
I am the person who posted previously about knowing him when we were in our 20s. You guessed right. He and his family moved to Canada from the Soviet union. They wanted to go to the United States but weren’t able to get in. His mother died when he was a teen and it was just he and his dad. He wanted to get to the states so he went there as an undergrad. When I knew him we were in London together and I think he was somehow trying to get to the states. Or maybe he and his father had already moved there and he already had the ability to.But I think maybe that was one of the reasons he went to law school, because he could get a visa. This may be somewhat inaccurate. But he definitely is originally from the Soviet union. He just seemed like this kid who had grown up in several different countries in a kind of uncomfortable way as an only child and then his mom died and he was kind of socially awkward in an often brush and insulting way. But I feel kind of bad for him because he didn’t seem to of had an easy life. There are probably a lot of typos in this because I’m doing it on my phone. Sorry
Anonymous
01/28/2022 01:22
Subject: Re:Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic
The children of former soviets are some of the worst for this weird autocratic crap. I'm assuming just by his name that Ilya Shapiro falls into that category. It's a toxic soup of paranoia, distrust in government institutions, and the inability to function without having a boot on their neck. Ilya probably needs a big strong rich guy like Koch to tell him what to do.
And then they somehow tie it into them all being the saviors of western civilization...
It's seriously odd. Like some demented boy's fanfiction gone wrong
And then they somehow tie it into them all being the saviors of western civilization...
It's seriously odd. Like some demented boy's fanfiction gone wrong
Anonymous
01/27/2022 22:34
Subject: Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic
What he said was racist. He talked about how unqualified Sotomayor was but fawned over Barrett who had a much worse resume and then said any Black woman appointed would have as “asterisk” because they would be lesser than others.
Anonymous
01/27/2022 22:31
Subject: Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I knew him in our 20s. He’s incredibly socially awkward. I don’t understand why he’s managed to get this much prominence and I am completely befuddled as to why Georgetown law hired him
I know him as well. You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to smear him this way.
You know he is brilliant. At least admit what you know.
And Georgetown recognizes talent. Plus, Ilya is no racist - if you know him then you know that too.
I’m not smearing him. I’m telling the truth. Are you arguing that he’s not socially awkward? I felt sorry for him, he was so socially awkward. I honestly don’t know anyone who liked him. If he was just some corporate attorney somewhere I would still just feel sorry for him but since he’s in a position of power now he’s dangerous given his extreme political views and morals.
Anonymous
01/27/2022 21:11
Subject: Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic
How long before his appointment to Georgetown Law is withdrawn?
Anonymous
01/27/2022 21:09
Subject: Re:Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic
Anonymous wrote:Koch doesn't just pay Ilya Shapiro for Shapiro to smear black people.
Koch pays the Daily Caller to push racism and white identity politics.
https://readsludge.com/2019/03/13/charles-koch-continues-to-bankroll-the-tucker-carlson-founded-daily-caller/
Charles Koch Continues to Bankroll the Tucker Carlson-Founded Daily Caller
Two of Charles Koch’s foundations gave the Daily Caller News Foundation nearly $1 million in 2017, close to 40 percent of its annual revenue.
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/08/16/daily-caller-has-white-nationalist-problem
On Monday, August 14, the Daily Caller very quietly removed white nationalist Jason Kessler’s contributions to the publication after the violence and chaos in Charlottesville. The white nationalist “Unite the Right” rally was organized by Kessler.
But the white nationalist problem at Tucker Carlson’s Daily Caller, a conservative political outlet launched in 2010 is bigger than just Kessler. Throughout the 2016 election and since, the Daily Caller has not only published the work of white nationalists, but some of its writers have routinely whitewashed the Alt-Right, while one editor there is an associate of key Alt-Right figures. Two Daily Caller contributors, including a senior investigative reporter, were recently announced as speakers at the upcoming white nationalist H.L. Mencken Club conference organized by Paul Gottfried, a godfather of white nationalism.
Koch hates you and me, and he's willing to pay for racism if that gets votes to destroy government to cut taxes on the rich.
And Ilya Shapiro is complicit in all of that. And now we see Shapiro's personal racism lies just below the surface.
Shapiro is a bad person paid by bad people and it's a great think that Shapiro lost his Falls Church school board race badly.
People of Falls Church: nice work.
Koch, Shapiro, Carlson, etc. are all disgusting POSs.
Anonymous
01/27/2022 21:09
Subject: Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic
Anonymous wrote:I knew him in our 20s. He’s incredibly socially awkward. I don’t understand why he’s managed to get this much prominence and I am completely befuddled as to why Georgetown law hired him
I know him as well. You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to smear him this way.
You know he is brilliant. At least admit what you know.
And Georgetown recognizes talent. Plus, Ilya is no racist - if you know him then you know that too.
Anonymous
01/27/2022 20:47
Subject: Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic
I knew him in our 20s. He’s incredibly socially awkward. I don’t understand why he’s managed to get this much prominence and I am completely befuddled as to why Georgetown law hired him
Anonymous
01/27/2022 20:43
Subject: Re:Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic
Koch doesn't just pay Ilya Shapiro for Shapiro to smear black people.
Koch pays the Daily Caller to push racism and white identity politics.
https://readsludge.com/2019/03/13/charles-koch-continues-to-bankroll-the-tucker-carlson-founded-daily-caller/
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/08/16/daily-caller-has-white-nationalist-problem
Koch hates you and me, and he's willing to pay for racism if that gets votes to destroy government to cut taxes on the rich.
And Ilya Shapiro is complicit in all of that. And now we see Shapiro's personal racism lies just below the surface.
Shapiro is a bad person paid by bad people and it's a great think that Shapiro lost his Falls Church school board race badly.
People of Falls Church: nice work.
Koch pays the Daily Caller to push racism and white identity politics.
https://readsludge.com/2019/03/13/charles-koch-continues-to-bankroll-the-tucker-carlson-founded-daily-caller/
Charles Koch Continues to Bankroll the Tucker Carlson-Founded Daily Caller
Two of Charles Koch’s foundations gave the Daily Caller News Foundation nearly $1 million in 2017, close to 40 percent of its annual revenue.
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/08/16/daily-caller-has-white-nationalist-problem
On Monday, August 14, the Daily Caller very quietly removed white nationalist Jason Kessler’s contributions to the publication after the violence and chaos in Charlottesville. The white nationalist “Unite the Right” rally was organized by Kessler.
But the white nationalist problem at Tucker Carlson’s Daily Caller, a conservative political outlet launched in 2010 is bigger than just Kessler. Throughout the 2016 election and since, the Daily Caller has not only published the work of white nationalists, but some of its writers have routinely whitewashed the Alt-Right, while one editor there is an associate of key Alt-Right figures. Two Daily Caller contributors, including a senior investigative reporter, were recently announced as speakers at the upcoming white nationalist H.L. Mencken Club conference organized by Paul Gottfried, a godfather of white nationalism.
Koch hates you and me, and he's willing to pay for racism if that gets votes to destroy government to cut taxes on the rich.
And Ilya Shapiro is complicit in all of that. And now we see Shapiro's personal racism lies just below the surface.
Shapiro is a bad person paid by bad people and it's a great think that Shapiro lost his Falls Church school board race badly.
People of Falls Church: nice work.
Anonymous
01/27/2022 20:40
Subject: Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic
Charles Koch is a radical libertarian who wants to destroy our government to cut taxes on the rich.
He wants Koch-style "freedom": he wants to turn America into Somalia, where Koch lives in a fortified compound, and people shoot each other on the street because there is no effective government.
He wants Koch-style "freedom": he wants to turn America into Somalia, where Koch lives in a fortified compound, and people shoot each other on the street because there is no effective government.
Anonymous
01/27/2022 20:32
Subject: Re:Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic
Some context for how Shapiro smeared Sotomayor the same way.
Stern is one of the best SCOTUS reporters out there. And he doesn’t get paid by Koch like the rightwing “journalists” defending Shapiro — he’s gotta depend on subscriptions and ads.
Important lesson: if someone has ever taken a cent of Charles Koch’s money, their ideas help billionaires and harm average people and you should NEVER EVER vote for a Koch-connected person.
(That’s why rightwing billionaires hide their donations of course— they know their lies only work if people don’t know who is behind them.)
Stern is one of the best SCOTUS reporters out there. And he doesn’t get paid by Koch like the rightwing “journalists” defending Shapiro — he’s gotta depend on subscriptions and ads.
Important lesson: if someone has ever taken a cent of Charles Koch’s money, their ideas help billionaires and harm average people and you should NEVER EVER vote for a Koch-connected person.
(That’s why rightwing billionaires hide their donations of course— they know their lies only work if people don’t know who is behind them.)
Anonymous
01/27/2022 20:28
Subject: Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic
So Ilya Shapiro turned out to be quite the toxic person.
Good work Falls Church for voting this guy out.
Shapiro got too excited trying to tell Dems to nominate a nice Centrist SCOTUS judge who wouldn’t rock the boat.
But he said Biden would choose a “lesser black woman” instead.
Sometimes the interior racism of the right just leaks out and they can’t control it.
Good work Falls Church for voting this guy out.
Shapiro got too excited trying to tell Dems to nominate a nice Centrist SCOTUS judge who wouldn’t rock the boat.
But he said Biden would choose a “lesser black woman” instead.
Sometimes the interior racism of the right just leaks out and they can’t control it.