Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 18:32     Subject: DEI st St. Pat’s?
“I don’t see color” is problematic and patently false. Do better.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 18:21     Subject: Re:DEI st St. Pat’s?
OP here. Thanks for the feedback. I had written off the school as too nouveau riche and enmeshed with the CCC/Spring Valley set but maybe I need to take another look. Not so much because I’d love to receive anti-bias training but more because the staff is diverse and there are potentially open minded people in the community...

Are most parents pro-masks and screening or is it a split?
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 17:37     Subject: Re:DEI st St. Pat’s?
Anonymous wrote:More relevant: How are the science, math and writing curriculums ?


So, I understand what you were trying to say here, but in truth for POC, both are relevant to their child's experience.

OP, both are true. While St Pats definitely has a wealthy vibe, it's honestly pretty diverse (compared to similar schools). In my view, it is a more welcoming place than this board makes it seem. We are an URM family and we love the school. Our children have thrived.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 17:24     Subject: Re:DEI st St. Pat’s?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry. "Training" for PARENTS? Are you serious?
Yes, it is absolutely imperative that parents learn how to talk about race and equity with their children. You do realize that parents ignoring these things and saying things like "I don't see color" are how we got here, right? If your kids are going to learn about something, you should be able to support them in that at home. A school can reasonably assume that it doesn't have to teach you reading, writing and arithmetic (though a good school will tell you HOW they teach subjects) to be able to reinforce learning at home. It is not reasonable to assume that all parents are going to have a nuanced understanding of this topic, one that is stressful and challenging for many to discuss with good faith and good information.


Well aren't you the authority on this subject.

Just for the record, I don't see color. And I'm teaching my kids (who are in local privates) to behave and respond in the same way. We look at the content of one's character. And I presume your character to be quite elitist.

NP here.

You may or may not sincerely believe that you treat everyone the same regardless of race, but you (and everyone else) absolutely sees it and is conscious of it. So when you say "I don't see color," that's just something that makes you lose all credibility given it's an obvious lie. There's nothing wrong with seeing it and being conscious of it given it's impossible not to do so.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 17:18     Subject: Re:DEI st St. Pat’s?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry. "Training" for PARENTS? Are you serious?
Yes, it is absolutely imperative that parents learn how to talk about race and equity with their children. You do realize that parents ignoring these things and saying things like "I don't see color" are how we got here, right? If your kids are going to learn about something, you should be able to support them in that at home. A school can reasonably assume that it doesn't have to teach you reading, writing and arithmetic (though a good school will tell you HOW they teach subjects) to be able to reinforce learning at home. It is not reasonable to assume that all parents are going to have a nuanced understanding of this topic, one that is stressful and challenging for many to discuss with good faith and good information.

what is "here"?
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 17:18     Subject: Re:DEI st St. Pat’s?
More relevant: How are the science, math and writing curriculums ?
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 17:17     Subject: Re:DEI st St. Pat’s?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry. "Training" for PARENTS? Are you serious?
Yes, it is absolutely imperative that parents learn how to talk about race and equity with their children. You do realize that parents ignoring these things and saying things like "I don't see color" are how we got here, right? If your kids are going to learn about something, you should be able to support them in that at home. A school can reasonably assume that it doesn't have to teach you reading, writing and arithmetic (though a good school will tell you HOW they teach subjects) to be able to reinforce learning at home. It is not reasonable to assume that all parents are going to have a nuanced understanding of this topic, one that is stressful and challenging for many to discuss with good faith and good information.


Well aren't you the authority on this subject.

Just for the record, I don't see color. And I'm teaching my kids (who are in local privates) to behave and respond in the same way. We look at the content of one's character. And I presume your character to be quite elitist.


LOL. Remains to be seen if your DCs will hold onto to this archaic view on race. Don't be surprised when they don't bring friends home in HS.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 17:16     Subject: Re:DEI st St. Pat’s?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry. "Training" for PARENTS? Are you serious?
Yes, it is absolutely imperative that parents learn how to talk about race and equity with their children. You do realize that parents ignoring these things and saying things like "I don't see color" are how we got here, right? If your kids are going to learn about something, you should be able to support them in that at home. A school can reasonably assume that it doesn't have to teach you reading, writing and arithmetic (though a good school will tell you HOW they teach subjects) to be able to reinforce learning at home. It is not reasonable to assume that all parents are going to have a nuanced understanding of this topic, one that is stressful and challenging for many to discuss with good faith and good information.


TY
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 17:08     Subject: Re:DEI st St. Pat’s?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry. "Training" for PARENTS? Are you serious?
Yes, it is absolutely imperative that parents learn how to talk about race and equity with their children. You do realize that parents ignoring these things and saying things like "I don't see color" are how we got here, right? If your kids are going to learn about something, you should be able to support them in that at home. A school can reasonably assume that it doesn't have to teach you reading, writing and arithmetic (though a good school will tell you HOW they teach subjects) to be able to reinforce learning at home. It is not reasonable to assume that all parents are going to have a nuanced understanding of this topic, one that is stressful and challenging for many to discuss with good faith and good information.


Well aren't you the authority on this subject.

Just for the record, I don't see color. And I'm teaching my kids (who are in local privates) to behave and respond in the same way. We look at the content of one's character. And I presume your character to be quite elitist.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 16:34     Subject: DEI st St. Pat’s?
The correct pronunciation is “DIE”
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 16:26     Subject: Re:DEI st St. Pat’s?
Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry. "Training" for PARENTS? Are you serious?
Yes, it is absolutely imperative that parents learn how to talk about race and equity with their children. You do realize that parents ignoring these things and saying things like "I don't see color" are how we got here, right? If your kids are going to learn about something, you should be able to support them in that at home. A school can reasonably assume that it doesn't have to teach you reading, writing and arithmetic (though a good school will tell you HOW they teach subjects) to be able to reinforce learning at home. It is not reasonable to assume that all parents are going to have a nuanced understanding of this topic, one that is stressful and challenging for many to discuss with good faith and good information.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 16:21     Subject: Re:DEI st St. Pat’s?
PP, you are not wrong about the demographic. This is a way for the country club set to feel good and virtuous about themselves.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 16:17     Subject: Re:DEI st St. Pat’s?
I'm sorry. "Training" for PARENTS? Are you serious?
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 16:13     Subject: DEI st St. Pat’s?
There has been an administrator over DEI initiatives for a number of years. St. Pat's also has a very diverse staff, which also says something important to that end. It is not perfect, no school is, but 3 years in, our family is pleased with the leadership in than space.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 15:28     Subject: DEI st St. Pat’s?
I was surprised to learn that St. Patrick’s is apparently a leader in DEI and organizing anti-racism trainings for parents. It always seemed to be such a country club-type place. Is it more politically progressive than I thought or is this the admin trying to change the school’s demo or image?