Anonymous
Post 01/23/2022 10:18     Subject: Poor lifestyle choices account for 80% of chronic diseases
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So weird that the majority of people are personally making poor lifestyle choices as individuals all at the same time. Sounds like a lot of unconnected personal failings!


Precisely! Very strange.


Yes obesity increased very rapidly after 1980. Did we all start making bad lifestyle decisions all of a sudden? Or could there be something obesonogenic in the environment?

Only 3-5 percent of people who lose significant amounts of weight are able to keep it off. These people clearly have good will power to lose their weight in the first place, but they can’t keep it off. But let’s put everything on their moral failings…


Americans did significantly change how they ate after 1980: more snacks and sugary drinks at all times of day as promoted by food manufacturers.


Not to mention portion size.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2022 10:14     Subject: Poor lifestyle choices account for 80% of chronic diseases
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So weird that the majority of people are personally making poor lifestyle choices as individuals all at the same time. Sounds like a lot of unconnected personal failings!


Precisely! Very strange.


Yes obesity increased very rapidly after 1980. Did we all start making bad lifestyle decisions all of a sudden? Or could there be something obesonogenic in the environment?

Only 3-5 percent of people who lose significant amounts of weight are able to keep it off. These people clearly have good will power to lose their weight in the first place, but they can’t keep it off. But let’s put everything on their moral failings…


Americans did significantly change how they ate after 1980: more snacks and sugary drinks at all times of day as promoted by food manufacturers.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2022 10:11     Subject: Poor lifestyle choices account for 80% of chronic diseases
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So weird that the majority of people are personally making poor lifestyle choices as individuals all at the same time. Sounds like a lot of unconnected personal failings!


Precisely! Very strange.


Yes obesity increased very rapidly after 1980. Did we all start making bad lifestyle decisions all of a sudden? Or could there be something obesonogenic in the environment?

Only 3-5 percent of people who lose significant amounts of weight are able to keep it off. These people clearly have good will power to lose their weight in the first place, but they can’t keep it off. But let’s put everything on their moral failings…
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2022 10:07     Subject: Poor lifestyle choices account for 80% of chronic diseases
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:But what causes poor lifestyle choices? Poverty, ignorance, addictions, etc., not so easy to change.


+1 As an affluent, educated person who is has not gotten into an exercise routine since having kids, I would add: accessible healthcare, accessible childcare, jobs that allow for work life balance…


Right! So I'm sure we're all on board with addressing the widening gap of economic disparity, setting up accessible and affordable addiction and other mental health treatment, universal childcare resources to make is accessible and affordable to all, and improving work-life balance by mandates of good faith behaviors by employers if needed.

I await the dawning of our new world with much excitement.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2022 10:05     Subject: Poor lifestyle choices account for 80% of chronic diseases
Anonymous wrote:So weird that the majority of people are personally making poor lifestyle choices as individuals all at the same time. Sounds like a lot of unconnected personal failings!


Precisely! Very strange.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2022 10:04     Subject: Poor lifestyle choices account for 80% of chronic diseases
Anonymous wrote:Tell that to my mother with Multiple Sclerosis.

Or myself, with Grave's disease.

I understand you mean certain types of diabetes, most cardiovascular diseases, etc. We all know that.


Just don't go dumping on innocent people who lead healthy lives and still get the short end of the stick.



Another math-illiterate poster.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2022 10:03     Subject: Re:Poor lifestyle choices account for 80% of chronic diseases
Anonymous wrote:Chronic auto immune diseases are not caused by poor lifestyle choices...


Are you somehow under the impression that 80% is the same as 100%?
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2022 10:02     Subject: Poor lifestyle choices account for 80% of chronic diseases
Tell that to my mother with Multiple Sclerosis.

Or myself, with Grave's disease.

I understand you mean certain types of diabetes, most cardiovascular diseases, etc. We all know that.


Just don't go dumping on innocent people who lead healthy lives and still get the short end of the stick.

Anonymous
Post 01/23/2022 09:56     Subject: Re:Poor lifestyle choices account for 80% of chronic diseases
As a CPT for 30+ years with a masters in exercise science, I’m surprised it isn’t higher. The way people treat their bodies is truly shameful.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2022 09:56     Subject: Poor lifestyle choices account for 80% of chronic diseases
So weird that the majority of people are personally making poor lifestyle choices as individuals all at the same time. Sounds like a lot of unconnected personal failings!
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2022 09:54     Subject: Poor lifestyle choices account for 80% of chronic diseases
Anonymous wrote:But what causes poor lifestyle choices? Poverty, ignorance, addictions, etc., not so easy to change.


+1 As an affluent, educated person who is has not gotten into an exercise routine since having kids, I would add: accessible healthcare, accessible childcare, jobs that allow for work life balance…
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2022 09:52     Subject: Re:Poor lifestyle choices account for 80% of chronic diseases
Anonymous wrote:Chronic auto immune diseases are not caused by poor lifestyle choices...


I have IBD and our care costs a fraction of the healthcare costs. ITA with the OP - the metabolic syndrome is driving up the costs. Obesity, diabetes 2, high blood pressure and cholesterol.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2022 09:50     Subject: Poor lifestyle choices account for 80% of chronic diseases
But what causes poor lifestyle choices? Poverty, ignorance, addictions, etc., not so easy to change.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2022 09:49     Subject: Re:Poor lifestyle choices account for 80% of chronic diseases
Chronic auto immune diseases are not caused by poor lifestyle choices...
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2022 09:46     Subject: Poor lifestyle choices account for 80% of chronic diseases
This UN report is fascinating!

https://www.un.org/en/chronicle/article/lifestyle-diseases-economic-burden-health-services

The research shows we can change as a society and save 80% of what we spend on healthcare currently.

This research needs to guide our healthcare policy going forward.