Anonymous
12/23/2021 23:51
Subject: Access to Naviance data
Holton provides access to scattergrams.
Anonymous
12/23/2021 23:50
Subject: Access to Naviance data
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How does one get access to Naviance data? Do they only sell access to schools? Our Big3 is very stingy in what it allows students/parents to see, we think because the college counseling there has been such a chaotic mess for the last several years, so we would like access on our own.
Sidwell is so small that one can identify specific students in past year's data. That is why they are "stingy"
This is not their asserted reason. And anyway, their asserted reason is not their real reason.
Sidwell is anti-transparency. Gee, I wonder why?!?
Anonymous
12/23/2021 23:12
Subject: Access to Naviance data
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ok, can anyone give an example of a private school:
- in DC
- that is as competitive-entry as SFS high school
- that has </= 115 kids per grade
- that gives families complete access to all data each year?
Remember, the answer must meet all — not just a couple- of the above parameters. I am genuinely interested in the answer, if any. I already know it cannot be GDS.
Curious about maret, cathedral schools, Potomac? holton.
Don’t care about SJC, a very elite school in NYC, any public school whatsoever….
NCS does. Scattergrams are not shown for colleges that don’t have enough applicants for anonymity and scattergrams include 6 years of data without allowing you to narrow it down any closer if the applicant number is small. Some schools with a ton of applicants allow you to see just one year at a time. It just varies and the girls aren’t identifiable.
And NCS has less than 80 students in a grade in most of the years while Sidwell has 125+ students.
Anonymous
12/23/2021 23:10
Subject: Access to Naviance data
Potomac's naviance is a joke and the data is obviously incorrect. Its embarrassing.
Anonymous
12/23/2021 22:53
Subject: Access to Naviance data
Potomac gives access to Naviance scattergrams. A parent friend told me they could look at them from home starting in 11th grade.
Anonymous
12/23/2021 22:47
Subject: Access to Naviance data
Anonymous wrote:Ok, can anyone give an example of a private school:
- in DC
- that is as competitive-entry as SFS high school
- that has </= 115 kids per grade
- that gives families complete access to all data each year?
Remember, the answer must meet all — not just a couple- of the above parameters. I am genuinely interested in the answer, if any. I already know it cannot be GDS.
Curious about maret, cathedral schools, Potomac? holton.
Don’t care about SJC, a very elite school in NYC, any public school whatsoever….
NCS does. Scattergrams are not shown for colleges that don’t have enough applicants for anonymity and scattergrams include 6 years of data without allowing you to narrow it down any closer if the applicant number is small. Some schools with a ton of applicants allow you to see just one year at a time. It just varies and the girls aren’t identifiable.
Anonymous
12/23/2021 20:43
Subject: Access to Naviance data
Ok, can anyone give an example of a private school:
- in DC
- that is as competitive-entry as SFS high school
- that has </= 115 kids per grade
- that gives families complete access to all data each year?
Remember, the answer must meet all — not just a couple- of the above parameters. I am genuinely interested in the answer, if any. I already know it cannot be GDS.
Curious about maret, cathedral schools, Potomac? holton.
Don’t care about SJC, a very elite school in NYC, any public school whatsoever….
- in DC
- that is as competitive-entry as SFS high school
- that has </= 115 kids per grade
- that gives families complete access to all data each year?
Remember, the answer must meet all — not just a couple- of the above parameters. I am genuinely interested in the answer, if any. I already know it cannot be GDS.
Curious about maret, cathedral schools, Potomac? holton.
Don’t care about SJC, a very elite school in NYC, any public school whatsoever….
Anonymous
12/23/2021 20:37
Subject: Access to Naviance data
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How does one get access to Naviance data? Do they only sell access to schools? Our Big3 is very stingy in what it allows students/parents to see, we think because the college counseling there has been such a chaotic mess for the last several years, so we would like access on our own.
Sidwell is so small that one can identify specific students in past year's data. That is why they are "stingy"
That is a bit of a cop out answer. You show several years worth of data. One year wouldn’t be very meaningful. There are schools smaller than sidwell that are comfortable giving parents access. You Can always block individual colleges with a smaller sample to avoid identification.
I am not saying sidwell or other schools shouldn’t restrict access but that particular reason doesn’t really hold water
+1 My kids are in a much, much smaller school, and we have access to Naviance, and you cannot identify anyone. Colleges with few applicants do not have scattergrams shown.
Anonymous
12/23/2021 20:30
Subject: Access to Naviance data
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How does one get access to Naviance data? Do they only sell access to schools? Our Big3 is very stingy in what it allows students/parents to see, we think because the college counseling there has been such a chaotic mess for the last several years, so we would like access on our own.
Sidwell is so small that one can identify specific students in past year's data. That is why they are "stingy"
That is a bit of a cop out answer. You show several years worth of data. One year wouldn’t be very meaningful. There are schools smaller than sidwell that are comfortable giving parents access. You Can always block individual colleges with a smaller sample to avoid identification.
I am not saying sidwell or other schools shouldn’t restrict access but that particular reason doesn’t really hold water
Anonymous
12/23/2021 19:41
Subject: Access to Naviance data
Anonymous wrote:How does one get access to Naviance data? Do they only sell access to schools? Our Big3 is very stingy in what it allows students/parents to see, we think because the college counseling there has been such a chaotic mess for the last several years, so we would like access on our own.
Sidwell is so small that one can identify specific students in past year's data. That is why they are "stingy"
Anonymous
12/23/2021 18:52
Subject: Access to Naviance data
So for what its worth, with my first kid, we had access to the scattergrams and I definitely went down the rabbit hole of checking a fair bit to double check the schools on her list and help her brainstorm about more.
With my second kid, the school didn't allow access (although you could go into school and look anytime you wanted in the school guidance office) At first I thought that was weird and controlling, and I guess it is, but the process was also kind of liberating and relaxed without ready access to the data.
With my second kid, the school didn't allow access (although you could go into school and look anytime you wanted in the school guidance office) At first I thought that was weird and controlling, and I guess it is, but the process was also kind of liberating and relaxed without ready access to the data.
Anonymous
12/23/2021 18:51
Subject: Access to Naviance data
Anonymous wrote:The school controls the data available and can determine what it will share with parents and how. Parents from other schools have showed me samples of what they get to see and it's a lot more robust (also helps that one was public school so far more data points).
SFS very closely guards it, which either means 2 of the big 3 do, or 1 does and the two PPs are also talking about SFS (which is my guess as SFS parent).
The way SFS keeps it so tightly controlled sure makes it look like they are hiding something. more parents should be pushing the administration to give more access
absent that, how can parents get access to it themselves?
Anonymous
12/23/2021 18:12
Subject: Access to Naviance data
The school controls the data available and can determine what it will share with parents and how. Parents from other schools have showed me samples of what they get to see and it's a lot more robust (also helps that one was public school so far more data points).
SFS very closely guards it, which either means 2 of the big 3 do, or 1 does and the two PPs are also talking about SFS (which is my guess as SFS parent).
SFS very closely guards it, which either means 2 of the big 3 do, or 1 does and the two PPs are also talking about SFS (which is my guess as SFS parent).
Anonymous
12/23/2021 18:03
Subject: Re:Access to Naviance data
If you’re at the same big 3 as us, you can’t access the scattergrams on your own.
Anonymous
12/23/2021 17:49
Subject: Access to Naviance data
How does one get access to Naviance data? Do they only sell access to schools? Our Big3 is very stingy in what it allows students/parents to see, we think because the college counseling there has been such a chaotic mess for the last several years, so we would like access on our own.