Anonymous
Post 12/14/2021 18:17     Subject: Algebra II as a Summer Course?

Anonymous wrote:I guess you can do so here:

https://summer.stalbansschool.org/academics--arts/upper-school-912/mathematics


I just came to say after looking at the pictures of St. Albans (not just that one), there is more diversity there than in many parts of FX. Impressive.
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2021 16:50     Subject: Algebra II as a Summer Course?

Anonymous wrote:Hi school math teacher at an IB school. Please don’t let your child do this. While they technically can, the IB math classes are no joke and really rely on the foundations from algebra two. This year‘s group of kids is struggling just because of having to take algebra to online. I can only imagine how much more they be struggling if they only had five weeks of the class. Plus then what? They can’t take the IB exam until senior year anyway, so they’ll finish up the IB curriculum either junior year and then have to study intensely all over again to take the test in 12th grade, or they’ll have to skip a year between the two levels of IB math, and fill it with something like AP stats or computer science or a year of calculus or whatever your school offers. I currently have a couple students sitting in one of those elective math classes as juniors with nothing to take senior year. There’s truly no benefit to doing this.


Clearly I meant high school. Voice to text issue, sorry.
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2021 16:50     Subject: Algebra II as a Summer Course?

Hi school math teacher at an IB school. Please don’t let your child do this. While they technically can, the IB math classes are no joke and really rely on the foundations from algebra two. This year‘s group of kids is struggling just because of having to take algebra to online. I can only imagine how much more they be struggling if they only had five weeks of the class. Plus then what? They can’t take the IB exam until senior year anyway, so they’ll finish up the IB curriculum either junior year and then have to study intensely all over again to take the test in 12th grade, or they’ll have to skip a year between the two levels of IB math, and fill it with something like AP stats or computer science or a year of calculus or whatever your school offers. I currently have a couple students sitting in one of those elective math classes as juniors with nothing to take senior year. There’s truly no benefit to doing this.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2021 14:52     Subject: Algebra II as a Summer Course?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can you do a whole year class in a summer?


Yes you can. Should you? Probably not.


This. Does you child want an easy grade? Or do you want them to learn the material?
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2021 14:38     Subject: Algebra II as a Summer Course?

Talking to admissions people in colleges this year, and they don't care much about the classes above AP Calc BC. Don't waste your kid's time and potentially mess up their foundation for calculus.
pettifogger
Post 12/13/2021 14:35     Subject: Algebra II as a Summer Course?

Anonymous wrote:DD, who is currently taking Geometry as a 9th grader, wants to take Algebra II over the summer so he can take IB Math Analysis I in 10th grade. He says he doesn't have a reason. He just wants to. Before I go down this road with his guidance counselor, I wanted to see if anyone has done this before.

Thanks in advance!


Condensing a year long class into 5 weeks without a very good reason would likely be a bad idea for the average student. Not only will it be delivered in a much more watered down "cram" like fashion due to the time constraints, it may also backfire into a long term burnout/hate of math due to having to do nonstop math for 5 summer weeks straight. Some very good reasons might be if child is extremely motivated and is already planning their course sequences through their final high school year, and they also did very well in prior math classes and can pick up new concepts quickly. Or perhaps they are talented in math and already know a large chunk of the material (perhaps via math contests or some other outside enrichment opportunities). But if they're just doing it without any of these reasons, i.e they want to be at the same level as their friends, etc. it's likely not a good idea long term.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2021 14:08     Subject: Re:Algebra II as a Summer Course?

The only summer math course my son’s school allows is geometry. It’s an intense 6 week class. Three hours of class time every day and a few hours of HW. It sounds awful to me but I don’t like math.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2021 14:02     Subject: Algebra II as a Summer Course?

DoinkS!

Obviously, your kid isn't going to take AP stats if he's in an IB school! My mistake.

What would be his follow on classes? Is there an IB stats? I'm not as familiar with the IB sequencing.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2021 14:00     Subject: Algebra II as a Summer Course?

OP, what would come after IB Math Analysis in 10th? Is that just a one-year course?

My son is also taking Geom Hons in 9th grade. He actually qualified for Alg. I hons in 7th, but after discussing it, he chose to wait until 8th grade for Alg. I hons.

In my son's case, he won't be able to take AP Calc (either AB or BC) until Senior year -- which is not entirely ideal for college applications in a computer science field. But, I don't think taking Alg 2 would be a great idea. And FCPS doesn't offer Alg. 2 Hons during the summer. I think it's too important to compress into 5 weeks.

Why does your kid want to take Data Anal in 10th? Is it really essential to get to something else? What will he take beyond that for math? AP Stats, then ?

Make sure you are looking at the THREE year sequence and not just his immediate interest in taking Data Anal in 10th.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2021 13:46     Subject: Algebra II as a Summer Course?

My schools’ math teachers said take geometry over the summer but never algebra. Algebra is too foundational. So, geometry should’ve been taken this last summer if he wanted to move ahead.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2021 13:39     Subject: Algebra II as a Summer Course?

Anonymous wrote:Can you do a whole year class in a summer?


Yes you can. Should you? Probably not.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2021 13:37     Subject: Algebra II as a Summer Course?

Anonymous
Post 12/13/2021 13:34     Subject: Algebra II as a Summer Course?

Can you do a whole year class in a summer?
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2021 13:32     Subject: Re:Algebra II as a Summer Course?

Or as a parent you can say no because compressing a year long class that is foundational for more advanced classes because he just wants to is a bad idea.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2021 13:23     Subject: Algebra II as a Summer Course?

DD, who is currently taking Geometry as a 9th grader, wants to take Algebra II over the summer so he can take IB Math Analysis I in 10th grade. He says he doesn't have a reason. He just wants to. Before I go down this road with his guidance counselor, I wanted to see if anyone has done this before.

Thanks in advance!