Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 11:02     Subject: Re:AAP - What was the 2021-22 pool cut-off for your school?

Our AART said the cutoff was going to be for the entire county, not school-by-school.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 10:49     Subject: AAP - What was the 2021-22 pool cut-off for your school?
Anonymous wrote:Or this forum is anonymous and many people are uninformed/ignorant. Maybe their THIRD grader got a 138 but they aren't "in-pool" since there is no pool for third grade, so they come on here telling everyone the AART said 138 is not in-pool at their school.


But then I would imagine that the AART would have said there is no pool for 3rd graders not 138 is not in pool unless the person misunderstood. Once we get the scores, we will (hopefully) have a clearer idea about what's going on. BTW folks who received pool letters, please don't ask around other parents if they got theirs. I already had 2 parents asking me if I got an email for my kiddo (smh).
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 10:49     Subject: AAP - What was the 2021-22 pool cut-off for your school?
Anonymous wrote:Or this forum is anonymous and many people are uninformed/ignorant. Maybe their THIRD grader got a 138 but they aren't "in-pool" since there is no pool for third grade, so they come on here telling everyone the AART said 138 is not in-pool at their school.


Which is why you just ask the source - FCPS.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 10:37     Subject: AAP - What was the 2021-22 pool cut-off for your school?
Or this forum is anonymous and many people are uninformed/ignorant. Maybe their THIRD grader got a 138 but they aren't "in-pool" since there is no pool for third grade, so they come on here telling everyone the AART said 138 is not in-pool at their school.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 10:32     Subject: AAP - What was the 2021-22 pool cut-off for your school?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Since 137 and above is 99 percentile, it has to be around 137 maximum. It also depends on how many kids score above 132 this year from a particular school. If many fall in the bracket of 132 to 137, that school may increase cut off of 137.
I think you schools AART will be able to give your schools cut off.


Not if the cut off was made to include a specific percentage of kid at a school. So if the rule was, hypothetically speaking, AART and Principals had to set a cut off of a score that 10% of the kids at that specific school achieved, that could mean a 139 at one school and a 125 at another school.

There are schools with a higher percentage of parents invested in AAP for their kids where parents do more to prepare kids for things like the NNAT and the CogAT so that there is a larger percentage of kids who score in the 140's then other schools. And there are schools where kids are less prepared for school overall, never mind prepping for the NNAT or CogAT, where the top kids are under that 132 cut off. The local cut offs are meant to address that issue.


Exactly
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 10:18     Subject: Re:AAP - What was the 2021-22 pool cut-off for your school?
Woah this is kind of crazy
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 10:14     Subject: AAP - What was the 2021-22 pool cut-off for your school?
Anonymous wrote:Since 137 and above is 99 percentile, it has to be around 137 maximum. It also depends on how many kids score above 132 this year from a particular school. If many fall in the bracket of 132 to 137, that school may increase cut off of 137.
I think you schools AART will be able to give your schools cut off.


Not if the cut off was made to include a specific percentage of kid at a school. So if the rule was, hypothetically speaking, AART and Principals had to set a cut off of a score that 10% of the kids at that specific school achieved, that could mean a 139 at one school and a 125 at another school.

There are schools with a higher percentage of parents invested in AAP for their kids where parents do more to prepare kids for things like the NNAT and the CogAT so that there is a larger percentage of kids who score in the 140's then other schools. And there are schools where kids are less prepared for school overall, never mind prepping for the NNAT or CogAT, where the top kids are under that 132 cut off. The local cut offs are meant to address that issue.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 10:11     Subject: AAP - What was the 2021-22 pool cut-off for your school?
Anonymous wrote:Since 137 and above is 99 percentile, it has to be around 137 maximum. It also depends on how many kids score above 132 this year from a particular school. If many fall in the bracket of 132 to 137, that school may increase cut off of 137.
I think you schools AART will be able to give your schools cut off.


Some schools will most definitely have a lower cut-off also.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 10:08     Subject: AAP - What was the 2021-22 pool cut-off for your school?
Since 137 and above is 99 percentile, it has to be around 137 maximum. It also depends on how many kids score above 132 this year from a particular school. If many fall in the bracket of 132 to 137, that school may increase cut off of 137.
I think you schools AART will be able to give your schools cut off.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 10:01     Subject: AAP - What was the 2021-22 pool cut-off for your school?
Anonymous wrote:The central cutoff has always been 132. Unless FCPS informs about the new cutoff, I would go with 132 in Cogat.


They aren't posting a central cut-off this year (per our AART) and someone else reported that their AART confirmed a 138 was not in-pool for that student's school. Based on the 10/18 memo from Brabrand to the SB and that info it's clear they are using local building norms only this year. Hence the curiosity on how much the norms vary.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 09:59     Subject: AAP - What was the 2021-22 pool cut-off for your school?
The central cutoff has always been 132. Unless FCPS informs about the new cutoff, I would go with 132 in Cogat.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 09:58     Subject: AAP - What was the 2021-22 pool cut-off for your school?
Some of us don't even have the scores yet!
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 09:32     Subject: Re:AAP - What was the 2021-22 pool cut-off for your school?
No one can say, at this moment, what the cut off was even if they want to say what school they are at. They can say what scores their kids received and that is about it. And revealing exact scores at specific schools essentially says who they are if an AART is reading this thread. I don't know if revealing that info is a good or bad thing but I would guess most people want to keep their identities private.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 09:29     Subject: AAP - What was the 2021-22 pool cut-off for your school?
Best way to get this info would just be to put a VFOIA request in to FCPS and have the AAP Central office legally have to give it to you.

Unfortunately (but probably reasonably) FOIA requests over a certain number of hours cost. Fortunately this one shouldn't take that long.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 09:06     Subject: AAP - What was the 2021-22 pool cut-off for your school?
Looks like the old national norm of 132 isn’t being used anymore, so it would be helpful for reference purposes to have a ballpark of the local cut-offs for each school. If you know or have a general idea of the cut-off at your school post it here.