Anonymous
06/21/2022 19:56
Subject: How can anyone think the Right wants anything other than control and more religious privilege?
This was a narrow case that’s probably not applicable to other states or situations.
Something like half of Maine counties don’t have a high school, so instead they provide vouchers to neighboring districts or private schools. Except they couldn’t give a voucher to a religious high school. Considering distance is a factor, you might want to attend a local religious high school rather than driving to other counties to attend a non religious private.
I think that vouchers should be able to be used at any accredited high school, religious or non religious.
I’m curious about other situations. My federal insurance paid for my births at Catholic hospitals. Are religious rehabs never covered by taxpayer funds?
Something like half of Maine counties don’t have a high school, so instead they provide vouchers to neighboring districts or private schools. Except they couldn’t give a voucher to a religious high school. Considering distance is a factor, you might want to attend a local religious high school rather than driving to other counties to attend a non religious private.
I think that vouchers should be able to be used at any accredited high school, religious or non religious.
I’m curious about other situations. My federal insurance paid for my births at Catholic hospitals. Are religious rehabs never covered by taxpayer funds?
Anonymous
06/21/2022 14:05
Subject: Re:How can anyone think the Right wants anything other than control and more religious privilege?
private schools can also determine what types of students can attend their schools correct? I mean, you have to apply and can be declined for various reasons, which include discrimination reasons.
Anonymous
06/21/2022 14:04
Subject: How can anyone think the Right wants anything other than control and more religious privilege?
Anonymous wrote:"Nevertheless, the plaintiffs seek an expansion of Espinoza, claiming that policies which require religious families to “choose between their religious beliefs and receiving a government benefit” are unconstitutional — and that Maine’s tuition program forces these families to choose between “their right to tuition assistance or their right to freely exercise their religion.”"
Their RIGHT to tuition assistance? Wow. They seem to have a lot of rights and yet have no problem dismantling those of others.
[/url]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-decide-whether-states-can-refuse-pay-religious-education-n1285559[url]
There is a right to education. Not a right to religious PRIVATE education.
This decision is not a reach. Be mad at the right stuff please.
Anonymous
06/21/2022 14:04
Subject: How can anyone think the Right wants anything other than control and more religious privilege?
Anonymous wrote:The right is always trying to force their RELIGIOUS LIFESTYLE and AGENDA down our throats like we should have to live our lives based around their beliefs or just accept that they come to our doors trying to recruit us into their cults.
They are the groomers they’ve been projecting about.
Anonymous
06/21/2022 14:02
Subject: Re:How can anyone think the Right wants anything other than control and more religious privilege?
Anonymous wrote:The court found by Maine disallowing the voucher program to not be used at private parochial schools, the law was violating the free exercising of religion. There is no establishment of a religion by the government. The majority made the correct decision. No one is forcing a student to attend a religious school. This is good for Christians, Muslims and Jews among others.
If I want to start a pastafarian school in Maine, I can now apply to the voucher acceptance program.
Did you read the facts of the Maine case? The voucher program in Maine is for areas that are too rural to support public schools.
Anonymous
06/21/2022 13:58
Subject: How can anyone think the Right wants anything other than control and more religious privilege?
The right is always trying to force their RELIGIOUS LIFESTYLE and AGENDA down our throats like we should have to live our lives based around their beliefs or just accept that they come to our doors trying to recruit us into their cults.
Anonymous
06/21/2022 13:48
Subject: Re:How can anyone think the Right wants anything other than control and more religious privilege?
Anonymous wrote:The court found by Maine disallowing the voucher program to not be used at private parochial schools, the law was violating the free exercising of religion. There is no establishment of a religion by the government. The majority made the correct decision. No one is forcing a student to attend a religious school. This is good for Christians, Muslims and Jews among others.
If I want to start a pastafarian school in Maine, I can now apply to the voucher acceptance program.
do they meet the state education requirements?
Anonymous
06/21/2022 13:47
Subject: Re:How can anyone think the Right wants anything other than control and more religious privilege?
The court found by Maine disallowing the voucher program to not be used at private parochial schools, the law was violating the free exercising of religion. There is no establishment of a religion by the government. The majority made the correct decision. No one is forcing a student to attend a religious school. This is good for Christians, Muslims and Jews among others.
If I want to start a pastafarian school in Maine, I can now apply to the voucher acceptance program.
If I want to start a pastafarian school in Maine, I can now apply to the voucher acceptance program.
Anonymous
06/21/2022 13:41
Subject: Re:How can anyone think the Right wants anything other than control and more religious privilege?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So tell me again why I shouldn't worry about this
https://mobile.twitter.com/AP/status/1539259354469244930?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Because Maine could just eliminate the program all together. What they can't do is apply the program unfairly. Most school districts don't have this program to begin with so its not relevant.
They cant eliminate it. States must provide education. This is religious advocacy- or as I refer to it, special interests. There was nothing in the ruling that said they cant discriminate against religious schools that meet the state education requirements, which MANY dont.
It is a significant expansion of religious rights. If we cant use taxpayer funds for abortions- A MEDICAL PROCEDURE- then it should be used for religious indoctrination.
Also is it just global recognized religions? Who defines the religions?
Anonymous
06/21/2022 12:59
Subject: Re:How can anyone think the Right wants anything other than control and more religious privilege?
Anonymous wrote:So tell me again why I shouldn't worry about this
https://mobile.twitter.com/AP/status/1539259354469244930?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Because Maine could just eliminate the program all together. What they can't do is apply the program unfairly. Most school districts don't have this program to begin with so its not relevant.
Anonymous
06/21/2022 11:30
Subject: Re:How can anyone think the Right wants anything other than control and more religious privilege?
So tell me again why I shouldn't worry about this
https://mobile.twitter.com/AP/status/1539259354469244930?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
https://mobile.twitter.com/AP/status/1539259354469244930?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Anonymous
12/08/2021 12:39
Subject: How can anyone think the Right wants anything other than control and more religious privilege?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Maine law is a bit flawed in that it allows the money to be used to pay for education in (1) another public school district or (2) a non-sectarian private school.
I bet the law is revised so that the money can only be used in public schools. Non-sectarian private schools are pretty rare; most privates in the US are religiously affiliated. My guess is that the plaintiffs are also making a burden argument - it takes too long to travel to a non-sectarian private and there is a religious private school closer to their home.
I thought its because it is so remote there aren't enough students to have a school? Homeschool has its own drawbacks. If they limited it to public schools only is that legal?
Correct - these are rural families and there are not enough kids to have a local school district. But the kids can use the money to compensate other nearby school districts to "buy" admission.
These kids have to travel to school, regardless if its private or public. Maine could short circuit this case by just amending the law to remove private school subsidies and only allow the funds to be spent in public schools. No one is owed a private school education.
Anonymous
12/08/2021 12:36
Subject: How can anyone think the Right wants anything other than control and more religious privilege?
Anonymous wrote:The Maine law is a bit flawed in that it allows the money to be used to pay for education in (1) another public school district or (2) a non-sectarian private school.
I bet the law is revised so that the money can only be used in public schools. Non-sectarian private schools are pretty rare; most privates in the US are religiously affiliated. My guess is that the plaintiffs are also making a burden argument - it takes too long to travel to a non-sectarian private and there is a religious private school closer to their home.
I thought its because it is so remote there arent enough students to have a school? Homeschool has its own drawbacks. If they limited it to public schools only is that legal?
Anonymous
12/08/2021 12:31
Subject: How can anyone think the Right wants anything other than control and more religious privilege?
The Maine law is a bit flawed in that it allows the money to be used to pay for education in (1) another public school district or (2) a non-sectarian private school.
I bet the law is revised so that the money can only be used in public schools. Non-sectarian private schools are pretty rare; most privates in the US are religiously affiliated. My guess is that the plaintiffs are also making a burden argument - it takes too long to travel to a non-sectarian private and there is a religious private school closer to their home.
I bet the law is revised so that the money can only be used in public schools. Non-sectarian private schools are pretty rare; most privates in the US are religiously affiliated. My guess is that the plaintiffs are also making a burden argument - it takes too long to travel to a non-sectarian private and there is a religious private school closer to their home.
Anonymous
12/08/2021 12:25
Subject: How can anyone think the Right wants anything other than control and more religious privilege?
"Nevertheless, the plaintiffs seek an expansion of Espinoza, claiming that policies which require religious families to “choose between their religious beliefs and receiving a government benefit” are unconstitutional — and that Maine’s tuition program forces these families to choose between “their right to tuition assistance or their right to freely exercise their religion.”"
Their RIGHT to tuition assistance? Wow. They seem to have a lot of rights and yet have no problem dismantling those of others.
[/url]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-decide-whether-states-can-refuse-pay-religious-education-n1285559[url]
There is a right to education. Not a right to religious PRIVATE education.
Their RIGHT to tuition assistance? Wow. They seem to have a lot of rights and yet have no problem dismantling those of others.
[/url]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-decide-whether-states-can-refuse-pay-religious-education-n1285559[url]
There is a right to education. Not a right to religious PRIVATE education.