My advice would be apply ED if you can afford it. Brown is a school that has an advantage to applying early.
Also, if your high schooler has shadowed physicians, it’s helpful.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you, this is very helpful and promising. If the student decides to just do the 4 year undergrad program after a couple years in (decides to change major), is there a problem getting into other programs? In other words, what if they decide that they do not want to pursue medicine?

These programs are targeted to kids who absolutely know it’s what they want to do. My child isn’t at Brown but is at another combined program. That would have been figured out in the two day interview process that there were doubts. Most of the kids coming in had already done research (in high school - how?).

Just from your posting, I’m not sure if you realize how incredibly difficult it is to get into the Brown program. Like insanely hard.

Getting into a med school, regardless which path your choose, is insanely hard.

Sure. But Brown is the cream of the crop and especially for the limited PLME slots.
My kid is in a dual MD program but didn’t get into Brown. Consider looking at some of the lesser known schools unless your child has cured cancer so they actually stand a chance.

Hi PP! Is yours at VCU or U Miami? DC1 is a Brown in the program and he had 4 kids in his HS cohort going to VCU.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you, this is very helpful and promising. If the student decides to just do the 4 year undergrad program after a couple years in (decides to change major), is there a problem getting into other programs? In other words, what if they decide that they do not want to pursue medicine?

These programs are targeted to kids who absolutely know it’s what they want to do. My child isn’t at Brown but is at another combined program. That would have been figured out in the two day interview process that there were doubts. Most of the kids coming in had already done research (in high school - how?).

Just from your posting, I’m not sure if you realize how incredibly difficult it is to get into the Brown program. Like insanely hard.

Getting into a med school, regardless which path your choose, is insanely hard.

Sure. But Brown is the cream of the crop and especially for the limited PLME slots.
My kid is in a dual MD program but didn’t get into Brown. Consider looking at some of the lesser known schools unless your child has cured cancer so they actually stand a chance.

All med schools are good but Brown is not known as one of the better medical schools. I am not sure what you meant by "the cream of the crop". UCSF/Hopkins/Harvard/WashU/UCLA/UCSD/Pitt....etc. All ahead of Brown.

Which one of those has a dual program? Brown is the only Ivy with a joint program, which makes it highly sought after.

Pitt has joint program. Dartmouth is another Ivy that offers combined. Hope that answers your questions.

My DC1 is there and it is an amazing program with top notch residency placement, which is key for med school. All the programs (Brown, VCU, University of Miami etc.) are VERY competitive and the admission rates are very low, as the school wants to make sure one is committed to medicine. The admission rate at Brown was 2.3%. You can get a degree in anything while being in the program. Most of the people I know did neuroscience.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you, this is very helpful and promising. If the student decides to just do the 4 year undergrad program after a couple years in (decides to change major), is there a problem getting into other programs? In other words, what if they decide that they do not want to pursue medicine?

These programs are targeted to kids who absolutely know it’s what they want to do. My child isn’t at Brown but is at another combined program. That would have been figured out in the two day interview process that there were doubts. Most of the kids coming in had already done research (in high school - how?).

Just from your posting, I’m not sure if you realize how incredibly difficult it is to get into the Brown program. Like insanely hard.

Getting into a med school, regardless which path your choose, is insanely hard.

Sure. But Brown is the cream of the crop and especially for the limited PLME slots.
My kid is in a dual MD program but didn’t get into Brown. Consider looking at some of the lesser known schools unless your child has cured cancer so they actually stand a chance.

All med schools are good but Brown is not known as one of the better medical schools. I am not sure what you meant by "the cream of the crop". UCSF/Hopkins/Harvard/WashU/UCLA/UCSD/Pitt....etc. All ahead of Brown.

Which one of those has a dual program? Brown is the only Ivy with a joint program, which makes it highly sought after.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you, this is very helpful and promising. If the student decides to just do the 4 year undergrad program after a couple years in (decides to change major), is there a problem getting into other programs? In other words, what if they decide that they do not want to pursue medicine?

These programs are targeted to kids who absolutely know it’s what they want to do. My child isn’t at Brown but is at another combined program. That would have been figured out in the two day interview process that there were doubts. Most of the kids coming in had already done research (in high school - how?).

Just from your posting, I’m not sure if you realize how incredibly difficult it is to get into the Brown program. Like insanely hard.

Getting into a med school, regardless which path your choose, is insanely hard.

Sure. But Brown is the cream of the crop and especially for the limited PLME slots.
My kid is in a dual MD program but didn’t get into Brown. Consider looking at some of the lesser known schools unless your child has cured cancer so they actually stand a chance.

All med schools are good but Brown is not known as one of the better medical schools. I am not sure what you meant by "the cream of the crop". UCSF/Hopkins/Harvard/WashU/UCLA/UCSD/Pitt....etc. All ahead of Brown.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you, this is very helpful and promising. If the student decides to just do the 4 year undergrad program after a couple years in (decides to change major), is there a problem getting into other programs? In other words, what if they decide that they do not want to pursue medicine?

These programs are targeted to kids who absolutely know it’s what they want to do. My child isn’t at Brown but is at another combined program. That would have been figured out in the two day interview process that there were doubts. Most of the kids coming in had already done research (in high school - how?).

Just from your posting, I’m not sure if you realize how incredibly difficult it is to get into the Brown program. Like insanely hard.

Getting into a med school, regardless which path your choose, is insanely hard.

Sure. But Brown is the cream of the crop and especially for the limited PLME slots.
My kid is in a dual MD program but didn’t get into Brown. Consider looking at some of the lesser known schools unless your child has cured cancer so they actually stand a chance.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you, this is very helpful and promising. If the student decides to just do the 4 year undergrad program after a couple years in (decides to change major), is there a problem getting into other programs? In other words, what if they decide that they do not want to pursue medicine?

You can major in anything you want (as long as you take the required science classes). I went to brown, and my friends in the PLME program were less likely to major in biology than other pre med students.

Brown is known as a school that likes liberal arts for med students. I think this is fairly unique to them.

Anonymous wrote:Thank you, this is very helpful and promising. If the student decides to just do the 4 year undergrad program after a couple years in (decides to change major), is there a problem getting into other programs? In other words, what if they decide that they do not want to pursue medicine?

You can major in anything you want (as long as you take the required science classes). I went to brown, and my friends in the PLME program were less likely to major in biology than other pre med students.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you, this is very helpful and promising. If the student decides to just do the 4 year undergrad program after a couple years in (decides to change major), is there a problem getting into other programs? In other words, what if they decide that they do not want to pursue medicine?

These programs are targeted to kids who absolutely know it’s what they want to do. My child isn’t at Brown but is at another combined program. That would have been figured out in the two day interview process that there were doubts. Most of the kids coming in had already done research (in high school - how?).

Just from your posting, I’m not sure if you realize how incredibly difficult it is to get into the Brown program. Like insanely hard.

Getting into a med school, regardless which path your choose, is insanely hard.

Anonymous wrote:Thank you, this is very helpful and promising. If the student decides to just do the 4 year undergrad program after a couple years in (decides to change major), is there a problem getting into other programs? In other words, what if they decide that they do not want to pursue medicine?

These programs are targeted to kids who absolutely know it’s what they want to do. My child isn’t at Brown but is at another combined program. That would have been figured out in the two day interview process that there were doubts. Most of the kids coming in had already done research (in high school - how?).

Just from your posting, I’m not sure if you realize how incredibly difficult it is to get into the Brown program. Like insanely hard.

Thank you, this is very helpful and promising. If the student decides to just do the 4 year undergrad program after a couple years in (decides to change major), is there a problem getting into other programs? In other words, what if they decide that they do not want to pursue medicine?

I didn't take it but took classes with and was friends with people who did (and married someone who TAed in the med school). What i heard was that it's hard to get in, but if you do, you're set. There is a lot of support for following your interests at the undergrad level and you don't stress about med school applications. The med school is hard, because it's med school, but the PLME students don't have a reputation for struggling compared to their traditionally admitted classmates, and Brown is more attentive to student emotional wellness than a lot of other med schools are said to be. The grads I know have done well. If I were living again and making totally different choices, I'd try!

My niece is in her 2nd year in the RPI 7 year BS/ MD program. She likes it there. My DD (current junior( would like to do something similar but she has not completely sure if she wants to commit to the 7 year program. I am also worried what if she changes her mind in a couple years into the program. Any advice about that? is it easy to switch programs if you accept such a program?

MY DD is interested in the 7/8 year undergrad-med programs. Northwestern HPME does not exist any more. She is applying to several others with Brown PLME as her top choice. We were told that NW HPME was the best program in the country. However we do not know much about the Brown PLME program other than the fact that it is the only Ivy with the 8 year program. Any advice on these combined programs, which ones are good?