Anonymous
Post 12/01/2021 10:04     Subject: Re:New to hiring a nanny ... experienced parents, give me a tutorial

Anonymous wrote:Items that haven't been mentioned:
1) Advertising the job. We posted on DCUM, Care.com, and other boards. We didn't get good candidates for our position, and often folks applying didn't even read the position description. We worked with a nanny agency/recruiter and got qualified candidates in a shorter amount of time. Of course, we paid the agency fee, but it was worth it as we were spending far too much of our own time screening candidates.

2) Car and insurance. If your nanny will be "shuttling kids to camp, etc" make sure you identify who's car will be used, is it insured, etc. We chose to have our nanny use one of our cars and put her on our car insurance. Make sure you conduct a background check and driving record check.

3) Overhead. Having a nanny means you are now an employer. Expect to devote some time to employee management and administrative stuff, like troubleshooting direct deposit and taxes.

4) Health. Pre-COVID, we required a TDAP vaccine and a negative TB test for our nanny. Also, it's a two-way street - make sure potential applicants know your children's health status, like if they're on a childhood vaccine schedule different from CDC's or have medical conditions.

5) Commuting distance. Sure, reliable transportation but also consider commute. Having a nanny that lives closer means a greater probability they arrive on time consistently (hopefully) and a happier nanny.


OP here. Thank you!
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2021 20:35     Subject: Re:New to hiring a nanny ... experienced parents, give me a tutorial

Items that haven't been mentioned:
1) Advertising the job. We posted on DCUM, Care.com, and other boards. We didn't get good candidates for our position, and often folks applying didn't even read the position description. We worked with a nanny agency/recruiter and got qualified candidates in a shorter amount of time. Of course, we paid the agency fee, but it was worth it as we were spending far too much of our own time screening candidates.

2) Car and insurance. If your nanny will be "shuttling kids to camp, etc" make sure you identify who's car will be used, is it insured, etc. We chose to have our nanny use one of our cars and put her on our car insurance. Make sure you conduct a background check and driving record check.

3) Overhead. Having a nanny means you are now an employer. Expect to devote some time to employee management and administrative stuff, like troubleshooting direct deposit and taxes.

4) Health. Pre-COVID, we required a TDAP vaccine and a negative TB test for our nanny. Also, it's a two-way street - make sure potential applicants know your children's health status, like if they're on a childhood vaccine schedule different from CDC's or have medical conditions.

5) Commuting distance. Sure, reliable transportation but also consider commute. Having a nanny that lives closer means a greater probability they arrive on time consistently (hopefully) and a happier nanny.
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2021 19:51     Subject: New to hiring a nanny ... experienced parents, give me a tutorial

$30 at least
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2021 19:48     Subject: Re:New to hiring a nanny ... experienced parents, give me a tutorial

Please make it crystal clear to your children that you are definitely going back to work. The choice is who to hire to be with them, not whether you will stay home.

I’ve stepped in to help three times when a mom transitioned back to work. Twice, thd kids thought that atrocious behavior would result in mom staying home again. The third family made it clear that mom would be working, even if they had to find another care alternative. It’s a huge transition for kids, either way, but it’s easier when you’re firm in what you tell them.
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2021 14:01     Subject: Re:New to hiring a nanny ... experienced parents, give me a tutorial

I just worked with Coast to Coast Nannies and had a great experience. I was similarly clueless and found that they were great at guiding me through every step of the process.
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2021 13:37     Subject: Re:New to hiring a nanny ... experienced parents, give me a tutorial

Anonymous wrote:Know that you want and need a housekeeper/nanny rather than a teacher/nanny. I’ve had both types due to a change in circumstance.

When my first son was born, we hired a great teacher/nanny with a college degree who engaged him, taught him, did art with him, took him to library story time and set up a playgroup for him. She only did child-related chores like his laundry, cleaning his room, making his food (and grocery shopping for him) and picking up his toys at the end of the day. She was great and she’s still a close family friend. Both my kids adore her.

My older son was five when I had a second baby and nanny wasn’t available to come back. We knew that DH had a deployment coming up so our old nanny helped me interview housekeeper/nanny types. We found a lovely woman who was foreign to help with housework, pick up older from school and care for the baby. She loved my baby but wasn’t able to even read to her in English. But she was a huge help to me when DH was away. And a safe and reliable driver.

You just have to make it clear what you need. Remember the nanny will be with some or all of the older kids for school holidays and sick days too.



Btw, when our youngest started preschool at almost three, she was way behind where our older child was when he started. She’s caught up but just doesn’t have the vocabulary or love of books our older one has. Maybe that’s personality/genes but I think it was about the kind of care she had early on. Regardless, that’s not your situation but I thought I’d put it out there for others deciding on what type of nanny to hire.
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2021 11:24     Subject: Re:New to hiring a nanny ... experienced parents, give me a tutorial

Know that you want and need a housekeeper/nanny rather than a teacher/nanny. I’ve had both types due to a change in circumstance.

When my first son was born, we hired a great teacher/nanny with a college degree who engaged him, taught him, did art with him, took him to library story time and set up a playgroup for him. She only did child-related chores like his laundry, cleaning his room, making his food (and grocery shopping for him) and picking up his toys at the end of the day. She was great and she’s still a close family friend. Both my kids adore her.

My older son was five when I had a second baby and nanny wasn’t available to come back. We knew that DH had a deployment coming up so our old nanny helped me interview housekeeper/nanny types. We found a lovely woman who was foreign to help with housework, pick up older from school and care for the baby. She loved my baby but wasn’t able to even read to her in English. But she was a huge help to me when DH was away. And a safe and reliable driver.

You just have to make it clear what you need. Remember the nanny will be with some or all of the older kids for school holidays and sick days too.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2021 18:34     Subject: New to hiring a nanny ... experienced parents, give me a tutorial

OP, I run a local nanny agency. Please feel free to let me know if you would like to connect. I'd be happy to talk through all of this with you. PP's answer is really thorough, but still a few points I believe are worth considering beforehand.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2021 13:54     Subject: New to hiring a nanny ... experienced parents, give me a tutorial

Anonymous wrote:In brief, yes, I think you can find someone to do all this. You'll just want to be sure you're clear in your description what the responsibilities are so there isn't any confusion about the balance between nannying and housekeeping.

1. What can we expect to pay an experienced nanny for 40 hours per week? In addition to base pay, what are the other usual benefits? Do we cover healthcare, and if so, how? Do we give a stipend and let her figure it out? Or is that all expected to be covered by base pay? How much vacation do you give? She'll likely get two weeks in the summer when we are on our own vacation, as well as holidays like Thanksgiving and Christmas and probably a good deal of federal holidays since DH and the kids are usually home for those. In addition to that, would it be typical to give her, say 2 weeks of her own choosing? Or is 1 week sufficient since she'll have off at least a couple more weeks when we are away? We want to make a competitive offer but within the market range.

- Are you in the city or the suburbs? That'll make a difference as to the rate of pay as in the city is probably going to be at least $5/hr higher but I'm guessing with three kids who are out of the house part of the time, you're looking at a rate of around $25-$30/hr bare minimum, guaranteed 40 hours/week + overtime at time and a half as applicable, paid vacation and sick leave. It's a nice benefit to offer one week vacation of the nanny's choosing, but we didn't find it was necessary to recruitment. (That said when our nanny has asked for a specific time off we have always accommodated it.) We've had two nannies and not had to offer healthcare as the first was on her husband's plan and our current nanny is older and on Medicare. We probably would offer a flat stipend of several hundred dollars if it had been needed.

2. Is it usual to expect a nanny to housekeep while the children are at school? There will be about 2 hours and 45 minutes each day where the house will be empty. I'd like to ask her to do all the laundry and dishes, neaten up around the house, do some simple food prep so dinner is quick for DH to make (like chop veggies and fruits, marinate meat, etc.), and do 2 grocery trips per week. Is that all reasonable? In the summer, this would lighten up because all 3 kids will be home, they can help with chores, and she'll need to shuffle them to camps and stuff.

- Most nannies focus their time and abilities on childcare and early education, and while I'd say a good number of those will do light cleaning/cooking/laundry it tends to be for the child only, not for the family/entire house. So in your case maybe advertise for housekeeping/childcare rather than calling it strictly a nanny position?

3. How do taxes work? I find this confusing. What is our responsibility as the employer for taxes?

- You'll have to pay employer taxes, yes. Be sure you make clear whether the rate you say you're paying is pre- or post-tax. We advertised a rate and then took taxes out of it and it was a surprise to our nanny who had thought it would be post-tax pay; we worked it out but I felt bad about the confusion. (Apparently some nanny employers out there pay their employees' taxes for them separately on top of the advertised rate.) There are lots of payroll services that handle this explicitly for household employees that aren't expensive (NannyChex, SurePayroll, etc.) or you can look up your state regulations and do it on your own. We're in VA and do it ourselves and it's not really hard, but there are a lot of details to watch out for and you certainly don't want to miss making your payments to the state when they're due. (I'd use a service, but DH prefers to do it himself so I effectively outsource it to him in our case.)

4. How hard is it to find a great nanny? Should we expect some false starts? Just want to have reasonable expectations. The top priority is someone who adores kids and is warm and loving toward them. I've been home awhile, the kids are used to the comfort of mom all the time, and I want to leave them in loving hands. Second priority is probably someone who can really keep the house neat and running smoothly because that will really help me return to work more smoothly after a long time out. Safety obviously is very important too.

- My feeling is it's still a nanny's market right now, so yes, you probably will have to do some legwork to find the right person. I think being really clear up front about exactly what you're looking for, and not trying to be too accommodating to candidates in an interview, goes a long way. That sounds kind of terrible written out but I made the mistake in an early interview of trying to make the candidate feel comfortable and like we'd be great to work for and ended up realizing I had given her an unfair and not really accurate view of what we were really looking for. For instance: in your case if it's really important to you that your house be clean and run smoothly, I wouldn't necessarily categorize that as a 'second priority' but rather an 'equal priority.' And that's probably going to be the harder category to fill. Most nanny candidates love children and you should be able to get a sense in the interview of the chemistry between your kids and the candidate (definitely plan to have your kids with you for a portion of the interview, though ideally not all of it). You may even want to pay a candidate to work on trial for several hours or a full day as part of the interview process, to give them and your kids ample time together and see if they click.

One last thought: once you do find someone, expect that it will take several weeks for everyone to settle in. When our first nanny moved away and we had to find a new one, it took our DD a LONG time to settle in even though our new nanny really is wonderful. It's just a big change to bring someone new into your circle, so don't freak out if things don't go smoothly from the first day or week. Of course follow your gut instincts, but also be prepared to give it some time for the bumps to smooth out. It's a weirdly intimate relationship to have with someone and can take awhile for everyone to figure out the flow!



OP here. This is so, so helpful. Thank you!
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2021 13:16     Subject: New to hiring a nanny ... experienced parents, give me a tutorial

In brief, yes, I think you can find someone to do all this. You'll just want to be sure you're clear in your description what the responsibilities are so there isn't any confusion about the balance between nannying and housekeeping.

1. What can we expect to pay an experienced nanny for 40 hours per week? In addition to base pay, what are the other usual benefits? Do we cover healthcare, and if so, how? Do we give a stipend and let her figure it out? Or is that all expected to be covered by base pay? How much vacation do you give? She'll likely get two weeks in the summer when we are on our own vacation, as well as holidays like Thanksgiving and Christmas and probably a good deal of federal holidays since DH and the kids are usually home for those. In addition to that, would it be typical to give her, say 2 weeks of her own choosing? Or is 1 week sufficient since she'll have off at least a couple more weeks when we are away? We want to make a competitive offer but within the market range.

- Are you in the city or the suburbs? That'll make a difference as to the rate of pay as in the city is probably going to be at least $5/hr higher but I'm guessing with three kids who are out of the house part of the time, you're looking at a rate of around $25-$30/hr bare minimum, guaranteed 40 hours/week + overtime at time and a half as applicable, paid vacation and sick leave. It's a nice benefit to offer one week vacation of the nanny's choosing, but we didn't find it was necessary to recruitment. (That said when our nanny has asked for a specific time off we have always accommodated it.) We've had two nannies and not had to offer healthcare as the first was on her husband's plan and our current nanny is older and on Medicare. We probably would offer a flat stipend of several hundred dollars if it had been needed.

2. Is it usual to expect a nanny to housekeep while the children are at school? There will be about 2 hours and 45 minutes each day where the house will be empty. I'd like to ask her to do all the laundry and dishes, neaten up around the house, do some simple food prep so dinner is quick for DH to make (like chop veggies and fruits, marinate meat, etc.), and do 2 grocery trips per week. Is that all reasonable? In the summer, this would lighten up because all 3 kids will be home, they can help with chores, and she'll need to shuffle them to camps and stuff.

- Most nannies focus their time and abilities on childcare and early education, and while I'd say a good number of those will do light cleaning/cooking/laundry it tends to be for the child only, not for the family/entire house. So in your case maybe advertise for housekeeping/childcare rather than calling it strictly a nanny position?

3. How do taxes work? I find this confusing. What is our responsibility as the employer for taxes?

- You'll have to pay employer taxes, yes. Be sure you make clear whether the rate you say you're paying is pre- or post-tax. We advertised a rate and then took taxes out of it and it was a surprise to our nanny who had thought it would be post-tax pay; we worked it out but I felt bad about the confusion. (Apparently some nanny employers out there pay their employees' taxes for them separately on top of the advertised rate.) There are lots of payroll services that handle this explicitly for household employees that aren't expensive (NannyChex, SurePayroll, etc.) or you can look up your state regulations and do it on your own. We're in VA and do it ourselves and it's not really hard, but there are a lot of details to watch out for and you certainly don't want to miss making your payments to the state when they're due. (I'd use a service, but DH prefers to do it himself so I effectively outsource it to him in our case.)

4. How hard is it to find a great nanny? Should we expect some false starts? Just want to have reasonable expectations. The top priority is someone who adores kids and is warm and loving toward them. I've been home awhile, the kids are used to the comfort of mom all the time, and I want to leave them in loving hands. Second priority is probably someone who can really keep the house neat and running smoothly because that will really help me return to work more smoothly after a long time out. Safety obviously is very important too.

- My feeling is it's still a nanny's market right now, so yes, you probably will have to do some legwork to find the right person. I think being really clear up front about exactly what you're looking for, and not trying to be too accommodating to candidates in an interview, goes a long way. That sounds kind of terrible written out but I made the mistake in an early interview of trying to make the candidate feel comfortable and like we'd be great to work for and ended up realizing I had given her an unfair and not really accurate view of what we were really looking for. For instance: in your case if it's really important to you that your house be clean and run smoothly, I wouldn't necessarily categorize that as a 'second priority' but rather an 'equal priority.' And that's probably going to be the harder category to fill. Most nanny candidates love children and you should be able to get a sense in the interview of the chemistry between your kids and the candidate (definitely plan to have your kids with you for a portion of the interview, though ideally not all of it). You may even want to pay a candidate to work on trial for several hours or a full day as part of the interview process, to give them and your kids ample time together and see if they click.

One last thought: once you do find someone, expect that it will take several weeks for everyone to settle in. When our first nanny moved away and we had to find a new one, it took our DD a LONG time to settle in even though our new nanny really is wonderful. It's just a big change to bring someone new into your circle, so don't freak out if things don't go smoothly from the first day or week. Of course follow your gut instincts, but also be prepared to give it some time for the bumps to smooth out. It's a weirdly intimate relationship to have with someone and can take awhile for everyone to figure out the flow!

Anonymous
Post 11/29/2021 12:35     Subject: New to hiring a nanny ... experienced parents, give me a tutorial

Anonymous wrote:Usually the nanny does the kids’ laundry/dishes but not everyone’s.

For pay, how many kids and what ages?


The kids are 12, 11, and 4. The 12 & 11 year old are largely self-sufficient of course, but in the summer they'll need to be shuttled to things and sometimes picked up and taken to an activity after school while the nanny is still on duty during the school year. Obviously most of her energy will go into caring for and spending time with the 4-year old, but when the 4-year old is at preschool (5 mornings / week), we'd ask that she do light housekeeping.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2021 12:33     Subject: New to hiring a nanny ... experienced parents, give me a tutorial

Anonymous wrote:That sounds like too much housework for a nanny unless you pay accordingly.


But there is nearly 3 hours of the day during which all the kids are at school. So, we'd ask her to do light housekeeping during that time. Not sure what else she'd do during that time?
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2021 11:00     Subject: New to hiring a nanny ... experienced parents, give me a tutorial

Usually the nanny does the kids’ laundry/dishes but not everyone’s.

For pay, how many kids and what ages?
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2021 10:54     Subject: New to hiring a nanny ... experienced parents, give me a tutorial

That sounds like too much housework for a nanny unless you pay accordingly.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2021 10:41     Subject: New to hiring a nanny ... experienced parents, give me a tutorial

I am returning to work after a long stretch at home. I will begin in January, and we plan to hire a nanny to make it all work. DH is government, goes to work early and is home by 4-5pm. I'll work a later shift, get the kids off to school, and won't be home until 6:30. I think we'd like a full-time nanny to work 9-5. We have two school-aged kids who will be out of the house much of that time, and one preschooler who the nanny would pick up from preschool at noon and care for until DH comes home. But I'm going to need help picking up slack around the house, so I think it makes sense to hire someone full time.

Can experienced parents help answer some general questions we have before beginning the search:

1. What can we expect to pay an experienced nanny for 40 hours per week? In addition to base pay, what are the other usual benefits? Do we cover healthcare, and if so, how? Do we give a stipend and let her figure it out? Or is that all expected to be covered by base pay? How much vacation do you give? She'll likely get two weeks in the summer when we are on our own vacation, as well as holidays like Thanksgiving and Christmas and probably a good deal of federal holidays since DH and the kids are usually home for those. In addition to that, would it be typical to give her, say 2 weeks of her own choosing? Or is 1 week sufficient since she'll have off at least a couple more weeks when we are away? We want to make a competitive offer but within the market range.

2. Is it usual to expect a nanny to housekeep while the children are at school? There will be about 2 hours and 45 minutes each day where the house will be empty. I'd like to ask her to do all the laundry and dishes, neaten up around the house, do some simple food prep so dinner is quick for DH to make (like chop veggies and fruits, marinate meat, etc.), and do 2 grocery trips per week. Is that all reasonable? In the summer, this would lighten up because all 3 kids will be home, they can help with chores, and she'll need to shuffle them to camps and stuff.

3. How do taxes work? I find this confusing. What is our responsibility as the employer for taxes?

4. How hard is it to find a great nanny? Should we expect some false starts? Just want to have reasonable expectations. The top priority is someone who adores kids and is warm and loving toward them. I've been home awhile, the kids are used to the comfort of mom all the time, and I want to leave them in loving hands. Second priority is probably someone who can really keep the house neat and running smoothly because that will really help me return to work more smoothly after a long time out. Safety obviously is very important too.

Thanks for your help!