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I think extremists on both sides, but particularly the right, are going to tear this country apart. Weird, because most people here are actually moderates..

Anonymous wrote:I had a conversation with my neighbor today, who made the strong case that whatever Youngkin himself believes, he's just the tip of the spear of an authoritarian movement that wants to destroy democracy.
The take is: Youngkin may have backed away from Trump, but it's the billionaires and elites that run the GOP that are setting up the plan to steal the 2024 election, not Trump. It's the party that's designing gerrymanders to assure white Christian authoritarian minority rule. And the guy made the case that Youngkin embraced all that -- Youngkin took the money from Koch and Heritage billionaires and the GOP corporate interests and the gun companies and fossil fuel companies.

I am not sure if Youngkin himself is an authoritarian. To me he seems more like a dim, born-advantaged private equity guy who might not fully know what the GOP stands for today.
I don't fully see voting for Youngkin as embracing authoritarianism and helping to further climate disaster that will impact our kids future.

My kids will have the chance to get an abortion in VA or MD or another blue state.
Is Youngkin really a step to taking that away?

Yes, of course he is. He has said so. Why wouldn't you believe what he says?

Anonymous wrote:The constant fear-mongering from the left re: Youngkin is beyond old. "...assure white Christian authoritarian minority rule."?? Do you people ever really listen to yourselves?

Stop generalizing. Only one person said this. The rest of us would rather have had a different person at the top. That's all.

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Anonymous wrote: . . .

And of course, many abortions will take place in states where it is not legal and they will be more dangerous. We have been there before and unbelievably, we seem to heading backwards to the good old days of the "back alley" abortion. Horrible.

Oh please.

This is the mid-Atlantic, not the Deep South or the Dakotas.

Youngkin is not going to ban abortion.

- signed, a pro choice parent of a daughter growing up in Virginia

+100

Anonymous wrote:He is a centrist and will restore sanity - particularly in school policy.

If you have not been following the state-wide VMPI debate, you should.

And Terry would have implemented the plan to follow in NYC footsteps in eliminating all accelerated / AAP programs in VA.

This person is most definitely NOT a centrist. He's right-wing. Not extreme right, but solidly to the right. Just acknowledge this, PP. It's OK to like right-wing politicians. It's not OK to lie.

The constant fear-mongering from the left re: Youngkin is beyond old. "...assure white Christian authoritarian minority rule."?? Do you people ever really listen to yourselves?

Anonymous wrote: . . .

And of course, many abortions will take place in states where it is not legal and they will be more dangerous. We have been there before and unbelievably, we seem to heading backwards to the good old days of the "back alley" abortion. Horrible.

Oh please.

This is the mid-Atlantic, not the Deep South or the Dakotas.

Youngkin is not going to ban abortion.

- signed, a pro choice parent of a daughter growing up in Virginia

Anonymous wrote:He is a centrist and will restore sanity - particularly in school policy.

If you have not been following the state-wide VMPI debate, you should.

And Terry would have implemented the plan to follow in NYC footsteps in eliminating all accelerated / AAP programs in VA.

The “debate” where it was very clearly stated that VMPI was not going to “ban advanced math”?

Republican liars lie all day long.

The previous poster called him a centrist. This is incorrect.

He is absolutely as dangerous as OP is wondering. Full stop.

He is a centrist and will restore sanity - particularly in school policy.

If you have not been following the state-wide VMPI debate, you should.

And Terry would have implemented the plan to follow in NYC footsteps in eliminating all accelerated / AAP programs in VA.

He will continue to give the impression of the non-crazy, reasonable guy while fully supporting GOP agenda behind the scenes.

Look how carefully he chooses his words. He’s creating this shiny facade for the GOP.

I don't know him specifically, but voting GOP, unless you feel quite sure that the person of your choosing is actually a center-right, reasonable human being, like Hogan for example, is a recipe for disaster.

Yes. But maryland has a passed a freedom of choice act into law that stands when roe is overturned.

And of course, many abortions will take place in states where it is not legal and they will be more dangerous. We have been there before and unbelievably, we seem to heading backwards to the good old days of the "back alley" abortion. Horrible.

I had a conversation with my neighbor today, who made the strong case that whatever Youngkin himself believes, he's just the tip of the spear of an authoritarian movement that wants to destroy democracy.
The take is: Youngkin may have backed away from Trump, but it's the billionaires and elites that run the GOP that are setting up the plan to steal the 2024 election, not Trump. It's the party that's designing gerrymanders to assure white Christian authoritarian minority rule. And the guy made the case that Youngkin embraced all that -- Youngkin took the money from Koch and Heritage billionaires and the GOP corporate interests and the gun companies and fossil fuel companies.

I am not sure if Youngkin himself is an authoritarian. To me he seems more like a dim, born-advantaged private equity guy who might not fully know what the GOP stands for today.
I don't fully see voting for Youngkin as embracing authoritarianism and helping to further climate disaster that will impact our kids future.

My kids will have the chance to get an abortion in VA or MD or another blue state.
Is Youngkin really a step to taking that away?