Anonymous
09/15/2021 23:43
Subject: Peer reputation scores US news
Anonymous wrote:These scores are largely static and are provided by people who have very little idea what is going on at other schools.
This is true.
This is why we need to come to DCUM for unbiased, knowledgeable info on these schools.
Anonymous
09/15/2021 20:46
Subject: Re:Peer reputation scores US news
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1. Princeton 4.8
2. Columbia 4.7
Harvard 4.9
MIT 4.9
5. Yale 4.8
6. Stanford 4.9
U Chicago 4.6
8. UPenn 4.6
Caltech 4.6
9. Duke 4.5
John's Hopkins 4.7
Northwestern 4.4
13. Dartmouth 4.4
14. Brown 4.5
Vanderbilt 4.3
WashU 4.2
17. Cornell 4.6
Rice 4.1
19. Notre Dame 4.2
20. UCLA 4.4
21. Emory 4.2
22. UC Berkeley 4.7
23. Georgetown 4.2
U Michigan 4.5
25. Carnegie Mellon 4.3
UVA 4.3
You're welcome! However a caveat... There are several important factors that should go into the rankings and peer reputation is only one factor. Student selectivity and institutional resources matter for the entire quality of the school. Peer Reputation can also be gamer as well.
From this list, I can see other measurements for Columbia, Chicago, Rice must have been through the roof compared with other colleges they shared their rankings with. On the other hand, Stanford's other measurements should have been terribly worse.
Rice is a mini Princeton. Very small, a lot of money, and very high student quality.
Anonymous
09/15/2021 20:21
Subject: Re:Peer reputation scores US news
Anonymous wrote:1. Princeton 4.8
2. Columbia 4.7
Harvard 4.9
MIT 4.9
5. Yale 4.8
6. Stanford 4.9
U Chicago 4.6
8. UPenn 4.6
Caltech 4.6
9. Duke 4.5
John's Hopkins 4.7
Northwestern 4.4
13. Dartmouth 4.4
14. Brown 4.5
Vanderbilt 4.3
WashU 4.2
17. Cornell 4.6
Rice 4.1
19. Notre Dame 4.2
20. UCLA 4.4
21. Emory 4.2
22. UC Berkeley 4.7
23. Georgetown 4.2
U Michigan 4.5
25. Carnegie Mellon 4.3
UVA 4.3
You're welcome! However a caveat... There are several important factors that should go into the rankings and peer reputation is only one factor. Student selectivity and institutional resources matter for the entire quality of the school. Peer Reputation can also be gamer as well.
How is Rice so low on this list?
Anonymous
09/15/2021 20:15
Subject: Re:Peer reputation scores US news
Anonymous wrote:1. Princeton 4.8
2. Columbia 4.7
Harvard 4.9
MIT 4.9
5. Yale 4.8
6. Stanford 4.9
U Chicago 4.6
8. UPenn 4.6
Caltech 4.6
9. Duke 4.5
John's Hopkins 4.7
Northwestern 4.4
13. Dartmouth 4.4
14. Brown 4.5
Vanderbilt 4.3
WashU 4.2
17. Cornell 4.6
Rice 4.1
19. Notre Dame 4.2
20. UCLA 4.4
21. Emory 4.2
22. UC Berkeley 4.7
23. Georgetown 4.2
U Michigan 4.5
25. Carnegie Mellon 4.3
UVA 4.3
You're welcome! However a caveat... There are several important factors that should go into the rankings and peer reputation is only one factor. Student selectivity and institutional resources matter for the entire quality of the school. Peer Reputation can also be gamer as well.
From this list, I can see other measurements for Columbia, Chicago, Rice must have been through the roof compared with other colleges they shared their rankings with. On the other hand, Stanford's other measurements should have been terribly worse.
Anonymous
09/15/2021 20:06
Subject: Peer reputation scores US news
Anonymous wrote:That’s the only data I trust at USNWR. Everything else is easily manipulated, particularly by privates schools, and has been an ongoing concern for decades.
This is the only data supported by subjective he say she say opinions.
Anonymous
09/15/2021 19:59
Subject: Peer reputation scores US news
'Anonymous wrote:PA scores once again prove that Michigan and particularly Berkeley, are woefully under-ranked
Berkeley's PA score is likely heavily based on research and graduate reputation. Not the best choice for many for undergraduate.
Anonymous
09/15/2021 19:57
Subject: Peer reputation scores US news
These scores are largely static and are provided by people who have very little idea what is going on at other schools.
Anonymous
09/15/2021 19:27
Subject: Re:Peer reputation scores US news
These actually look surprisingly accurate to me. Do the LAC scores reflect reality as well?
Anonymous wrote:1. Princeton 4.8
2. Columbia 4.7
Harvard 4.9
MIT 4.9
5. Yale 4.8
6. Stanford 4.9
U Chicago 4.6
8. UPenn 4.6
Caltech 4.6
9. Duke 4.5
John's Hopkins 4.7
Northwestern 4.4
13. Dartmouth 4.4
14. Brown 4.5
Vanderbilt 4.3
WashU 4.2
17. Cornell 4.6
Rice 4.1
19. Notre Dame 4.2
20. UCLA 4.4
21. Emory 4.2
22. UC Berkeley 4.7
23. Georgetown 4.2
U Michigan 4.5
25. Carnegie Mellon 4.3
UVA 4.3
You're welcome! However a caveat... There are several important factors that should go into the rankings and peer reputation is only one factor. Student selectivity and institutional resources matter for the entire quality of the school. Peer Reputation can also be gamer as well.
Anonymous
09/15/2021 18:25
Subject: Peer reputation scores US news
PA scores once again prove that Michigan and particularly Berkeley, are woefully under-ranked
Anonymous
09/15/2021 18:23
Subject: Re:Peer reputation scores US news
Anonymous wrote:1. Princeton 4.8
2. Columbia 4.7
Harvard 4.9
MIT 4.9
5. Yale 4.8
6. Stanford 4.9
U Chicago 4.6
8. UPenn 4.6
Caltech 4.6
9. Duke 4.5
John's Hopkins 4.7
Northwestern 4.4
13. Dartmouth 4.4
14. Brown 4.5
Vanderbilt 4.3
WashU 4.2
17. Cornell 4.6
Rice 4.1
19. Notre Dame 4.2
20. UCLA 4.4
21. Emory 4.2
22. UC Berkeley 4.7
23. Georgetown 4.2
U Michigan 4.5
25. Carnegie Mellon 4.3
UVA 4.3
You're welcome! However a caveat... There are several important factors that should go into the rankings and peer reputation is only one factor. Student selectivity and institutional resources matter for the entire quality of the school. Peer Reputation can also be gamer as well.
Thank you!
Anonymous
09/15/2021 18:22
Subject: Peer reputation scores US news
There are outliers with peer assessment scores. That’s the point. The vast majority of them will come up similar scores. PA scores haven’t changed much since USNWR started ranking colleges. They do go up and down, so they are not exactly a constant.
Anonymous
09/15/2021 18:20
Subject: Re:Peer reputation scores US news
1. Princeton 4.8
2. Columbia 4.7
Harvard 4.9
MIT 4.9
5. Yale 4.8
6. Stanford 4.9
U Chicago 4.6
8. UPenn 4.6
Caltech 4.6
9. Duke 4.5
John's Hopkins 4.7
Northwestern 4.4
13. Dartmouth 4.4
14. Brown 4.5
Vanderbilt 4.3
WashU 4.2
17. Cornell 4.6
Rice 4.1
19. Notre Dame 4.2
20. UCLA 4.4
21. Emory 4.2
22. UC Berkeley 4.7
23. Georgetown 4.2
U Michigan 4.5
25. Carnegie Mellon 4.3
UVA 4.3
You're welcome! However a caveat... There are several important factors that should go into the rankings and peer reputation is only one factor. Student selectivity and institutional resources matter for the entire quality of the school. Peer Reputation can also be gamer as well.
2. Columbia 4.7
Harvard 4.9
MIT 4.9
5. Yale 4.8
6. Stanford 4.9
U Chicago 4.6
8. UPenn 4.6
Caltech 4.6
9. Duke 4.5
John's Hopkins 4.7
Northwestern 4.4
13. Dartmouth 4.4
14. Brown 4.5
Vanderbilt 4.3
WashU 4.2
17. Cornell 4.6
Rice 4.1
19. Notre Dame 4.2
20. UCLA 4.4
21. Emory 4.2
22. UC Berkeley 4.7
23. Georgetown 4.2
U Michigan 4.5
25. Carnegie Mellon 4.3
UVA 4.3
You're welcome! However a caveat... There are several important factors that should go into the rankings and peer reputation is only one factor. Student selectivity and institutional resources matter for the entire quality of the school. Peer Reputation can also be gamer as well.
Anonymous
09/15/2021 17:51
Subject: Peer reputation scores US news
Anonymous wrote:That’s the only data I trust at USNWR. Everything else is easily manipulated, particularly by privates schools, and has been an ongoing concern for decades.
https://www.reed.edu/reed-magazine/articles/2021/rankings-gladwell-usnews.html
With the help of Reed statistics professor Kelly McConville and her students Huaying Qiu ’20 and Lauren Rabe ’21, Malcolm Gladwell zeroes in on a key element of the US News algorithm, the notorious peer assessment score. To calculate this score, the guide asks top college officials—presidents, provosts, and deans of admission—to rate other institutions. But as Gladwell points out, these officials often know very little about the schools they’re assessing. In a riveting exchange with an anonymous dean of admission, Gladwell examines the kind of impressionistic factors—”my cousin went there and had a good time”—that color people’s judgment. Gladwell even interviews the president of Rowan University, who sends a bottle of hot sauce to other presidents every year in an effort to boost Rowan’s score (it works!)
The bottom line, as Gladwell discovers, is that the peer assessment score is essentially a function of reputation—reputation that over the last 30 years has been constructed, maintained, and reinforced by US News.
Anonymous
09/15/2021 17:46
Subject: Peer reputation scores US news
That’s the only data I trust at USNWR. Everything else is easily manipulated, particularly by privates schools, and has been an ongoing concern for decades.
Anonymous
09/15/2021 17:04
Subject: Peer reputation scores US news
Does anyone have the peer reputation scores for the recent US news ranking?