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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]When Shiv was crying in the dark room, she was looking at her phone, and this was after the assistant made a deal about "your appointment." She could very well have just scheduled some time to cry, like she told Tom. But could there be something else, too?[/quote]
I thought it was related to the pregnancy.  [/quote]

Ooh, I just had a thought.  Shiv had scheduled time in that room and she also received a phone call right as Tom walked in, but she flipped her phone over immediately so he couldn't see.  Could she have been about to schedule an abortion?
DP[/quote]

No[/quote]

I got the sense she was reviewing bad news. Or watching an ultrasound, or something related to the pregnancy, that made her sad, because her family had fallen apart. The specific thing is less important than the fact that Tom came in and then they seemed to flirt with rekindling things, or newly balancing their relationship. [/quote]

OMG, stop.  She's not getting an abortion.

DP.  She was crying, obviously upset, and had a scheduled time in that room.  Someone called her, seemingly right on schedule.  I think she had set up a time to speak with the doctor re: scheduling an abortion.  And Tom walked in right at that moment, which totally threw her off.  I would bet anything that's why she was in there.[/quote][/quote]

Shiv isn’t getting an abortion!! And she wouldn’t have to schedule a call with her Ob to schedule the abortion, from LA. She’d just call her OB whenever she wanted once she got back home and get it that day.

She may have definitely been waiting for a medical appointment (I did not see what was on her phone when she flipped it over) but she isn’t getting an abortion. [/quote]

I disagree - she may not ultimately have an abortion, but I think she was absolutely planning to get one.  But now that she and Tom seem to be back together, she's rethought things.[/quote]

You’re making things up now. “She used to want to but now she doesn’t!” Nothing, literally nothing, in the series has alluded to her wanting an abortion. She got an amino and scheduled a 20 week scan. She refrained from alcohol and cocaine even when drinking and doing coke would have been helpful to the deal (since she was alone with Matson and he was offering). Unless you take brooding looks and crying to mean “oh she is scheduling an abortion and then changed her mind!” ? It could also mean she was planning on adopting a dog and then changed her mind and had a call with the dog rescue to say no, and she was crying over that decision. Because there is as much evidence for that as for her abortion plan. [/quote]

+1, this is bananas. I have no problem with a storyline about Shiv getting, or contemplating, an abortion. But PP is just inventing one out of thin air. There are million reasons she could have been crying in that scene. Her dad just died, her brothers are being jerks, she's estranged from her husband, and, oh yeah, she's pumped full of pregnancy hormones which are known to make people particularly emotional. I cried 6 billion times during my pregnancy.

You can't just make up plot. If they want to write a story about Shiv getting an abortion, they will just write scenes in which that is clearly what is happening and the actor will play it. They are not going to dramatically sneak it in so you have to figure it out using clues. This is not that kind of show.[/quote]

DP (well I’m the pp at the very top of this convo but haven’t posted since). Shiv received a call just as Tom entered. Was it Mattson or something else?[/quote]

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