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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Can any of the US women do a quad or is this just a Russian women thing? I mean they are so physically demanding--to do 5 in one skate and most of them in the 2nd half, that is just insane. I do think whoever governs international figure skating scoring should revaluate the bonus awarded for doing a quad in the 2nd half.  It's just grueling--why not just go back to the old version of judging on technical and artistic merit and if you can do a quad great--if not maybe you do 4 triples and that equals doing 2 quads. this obsession with quads is crazy[/quote]

Alysa Liu was the first US female skater to land a quad in competition. It happened in 2019 and hasn't happened by her since because she grew. I'm not sure she still has it, tbh. I don't believe any other US female skaters have a quad in their arsenals of skills.

I will see if I can find it, but I read a fantastic article on why US female skaters don't have the quad. It boiled down to US skating keeping female skaters dainty and feminine, so they lacked the athleticism and muscle needed to land quads. Now that they are very important to the higher scores, the hope for the US is on the shoulders of younger skaters just starting out. Their training needs to include even more strength training to build them up to be strong enough to land the quad and have it in their skillset.

The article also pointed out how US women's gymnastics had the same issue with trying to keep gymnasts dainty and feminine looking. They didn't want the female gymnasts to appear too muscular or toned. The switch to "allowing" more muscular and powerful women gymnasts happened in the 90s, I believe the article stated. After Retton in the 80s, the US women didn't really start dominating gymnastics until the 90s when the switch started to happen.

For example, the 1988 US Women's Olympic Gymnastics team:
[img]https://usagym.org/images/post_images/475.jpg[/img]
Very dainty and feminine looking.

The 1996 US Women's Olympic Gymnastics team: 
[img]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c4/d4/2d/c4d42d33e79df9cbcdabf365e6f5ee5f.jpg[/img]
Much more visibly muscular.

And of course now, the women gymnasts are absolute beasts who dominate! [/quote]

So what is it? Some of you (poster above with the photos) are saying Americans can't land quads because you need big muscles to land them, but some of you are saying you need to be a waif to land quads like the Russian skaters.[/quote]

I think so far it looks like that, but I don't see why it's true. Unless you need to be so light that you can get that much higher to rotate 4 times. But IMO the issue is our technique, not our skaters' sizes.[/quote]

The Russians’ technique is leading to injuries and early retirement from the sport.[/quote]

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