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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Re: the gymnasts-

Gymnastics changed over time. It used to be more artistic, as well.

I remember watching gymnastics in the early 90s and Bela's girls all had the same muscle-packed bottom half look vs many of the other gymnasts who looked like ballerinas.

Yes, the tricks are amazing, but at what cost? There was long standing mental abuse during that era PLUS a cover up of a sexual predator who ruined hundreds of young lives.

Is this what we want?

Actually, it is well known in skating circles that Tara left the coaches at Univ of Delaware because they weren't allowing her to train triples super duper young. Which, ok, she got her an olympic gold at 15 BUT wound up needing hip surgery at 18.[/quote]

Your Tara story brings a point that I think is still uncomfortable for a wider public to digest.  A child who wants to be an Olympic champion AND is prepared to do whatever it takes is a child different from other children.  They have different motivations, different (much higher) ability to tolerate pain and discomfort, and invest whatever it takes to get to the top.   I think we like to indulge in a fantasy of a "well rounded child", whatever that is, who goes to school, gets all As, plays the piano, skates two hours a day and somehow gets on the Olympic podium.  This doesn't exist.  Children on this path are made differently, from a different human material. And any coach can tell you that a child cannot be forced to train to the point of Olympic medal; that type of drive must come from within.  Look at Trusova (who behaved badly, I think) and you see that to that child, anything other than first place is not acceptable, that she is ready to die on the ice training quads if it means getting to the top, that she would do them even in an empty rink with no spectators because SHE WANTS TO SO BADLY. It's OK Sasha, you didn't win but you are in history books. [/quote]

A good example of this now is soccer player Olivia Moultrie who went pro at 15. She really is one of those people[/quote]

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