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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My friend had a post partum nervous breakdown [b]at six months[/b] after weeks of insomnia[b] triggered by baby sleep struggles.  [/b]She tried to go on fmla but her boss forced her to quit instead with threatening action letters because she said she had ‘already taken too much maternity leave.’  This is the society we live in that tells moms they are too big a burden until some moms say ok i get it, I’m worthless, I will just kill my kids and myself.  Which of you who are so disgusted or outraged at her has founght for universal maternity leave? Which of you has lobbied for safe affordable subsidized daycare? Or adequate (first world) maternal medical care?  You are the disgusting ones, desperate to see a public lynching while this very minute there is an exhausted mom in the verge of crisis with no one to turn to.  You are handmaid’s tale characters.  Your righteousness is blasphemy.  [/quote]

This is dumb. You sleep train. Put the baby to bed at 7 and go back in at 6.  That’s all it takes.

That’s why it’s hard for a manager to have empathy for a woman who is voluntarily getting up for a six month old baby.  [/quote]

Yeah I wonder if this plays a role in PPD too. I had a subordinate who was constantly complaining of complete exhaustion but was getting up 3, 4, 5, times a night with a 9+ month old baby (after taking 6 months of maternity leave) because she and her husband didn't let the baby cry, ever, for even a second, for any reason. The baby had never fallen asleep on his own in his entire life. I mentioned to her that we had sleep-trained our kids and they slept 12 hours a night at her baby's age (younger actually) and she looked at me like I was some sort of child abuser. The baby is now over 2 and I still don't think he sleeps well at all and she's still sort of a zombie. [/quote]

OK guarantee you don't know the full situation with your co-worker. Sleep training does NOT work for every baby or every family. My second child woke up multiple times per night every night too. She would scream and cry to the point of vomiting and thrashing around in her crib/hurting herself by hitting her head on the sides of the crib if we let her "cry it out." It didn't work for us. Plus her scream-crying would wake up my older child because she was so loud that even w/ white noise and putting them as far away from each other as possible my older child (who is a great sleeper and slept 12 hrs a night from only a few months old so we never even had to try to sleep train him) would get woken up and not be able to go back to sleep from her screaming. It's not as simple as put the kid in their crib at 7pm and go back in the next morning. You don't know every situation and that type of sleep training does not work for everyone.[/quote]

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