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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I dont know what it's like coming out of public in nyc, but coming out of private, you can be in the bottom 25% of the class and get into Tufts.

And maybe this is the value in private? It puts in a bottom. You may not be going to HYP but you won't end up at  (insert a college ranked 100 )[/quote]

A friend of mine has a daughter that grinded it out in a upper middle class nyc suburb.  all sorts of EC.  4.0 GPA.  good ACT score.   Tufts was the best school she got into.
(and loves it, which is important!).   tough 4 years.

versus being middle of the pack at a 2T school and getting into Tufts or being in the bottom quartile at a TT and getting into Tufts.

the optionality of a better college with the "floor" of tufts is worth $300k to me if the alternative is a miserable 4 years fighting for each .01 on GPA at a top suburban school.  
Others make a different choice.

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The other side of that coin, though, is that when you’re at one of these schools (I’m a trin grad, kids at dalton), you’re not competing with other schools. Your competition is almost solely internal: your extremely competitive, remarkably gifted (and sometimes extraordinarily well-connected) classmates. So, while the floor may be higher (it truly is, in my grad year, mid students with b’s and c’s got into michigan and emory, etc.), the bar to clear for admissions to top colleges is also significantly higher, which leads to an ungodly amount of stress and pressure. A lot of kids who, had the gone to a public school and thrived, could have potentially gotten into ivy+ rather than some of the places they ended up.

These are the tradeoffs. I really did not enjoy school so much, however I did adore my college experience. [/quote]

People underestimate the tip top kids at good publics in nyc.  The schools that use SHSAT or take tier 1 kids (hate to use tier again, but this is the term publics use).  I have a kid at a top private and I hear a LOT of parents say, "he'd be in the top of the class at our public school".  as a person who went to public school, I say, bullshit! He'd be top 10%, maybe. But from most publics, that aint getting you into an ivy. Unless you have a kid who is in the top 10% of the class at a private, I have no reason to think you'd be the top kid at beacon or Elro or Millennium or Brooklyn tech. None. And the top 10% in private can get into HYP anyway so who cares. [/quote]

This is completely, completely true, and I apologize for suggesting otherwise. [/quote]

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