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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We can snark on Jen without pretending like purity culture isn’t real or harmful. [/quote] We can acknowledge that different people had different lived experiences. Geez….[/quote] Espousing that being a young woman raised in evangelical purity culture was not harmful is internalized misogyny, not a different lived experience. While this conversation is interesting and important, it’s not the right vibe for this forum. I’m also pretty sure it’s not the right vibe for Jen. For so many reasons listed here, she’s not someone whose opinion I highly value. She’s sold out too many times in too many directions and the narrative around the men in her family is in conflict with the one she’s selling her followers. [/quote] Lol. There are literally women on this thread saying they lived through evangelical purity culture and were not harmed. As for internalized misogyny; I highly doubt these women also hate women. But buzzwords are cool, I guess? Perhaps telling young girls that sex is just for fun, no big deal, and doesn’t require any commitment or real feelings from men, is harming women? Hard to “smash the patriarchy” when you’re giving men exactly what they want. (Look! A cool buzzword!)[/quote] I’ve clearly triggered you. No one has suggested that the only alternative to purity culture is the extreme you’ve laid out here. Why the hyperbole? Is it because reality threatens your world view? Women who say they were not harmed by purity culture either weren’t exposed to it or are actively perpetuating it. Again, not really fun fodder for a snark board. Is Tyler going to make an appearance at Me Camp? Isn’t every day Me Camp for Tyler? [/quote] Claiming that someone who doesn't agree with you about purity culture is guilty of internalized misogyny is just a variation of the ad hominem fallacy in which you attack your opponent in an argument rather than legitimately engaging them. And telling people their only options are either perpetuating something bad or acknowledging they weren't exposed to it, is presenting a false dilemma in which you attempt to control the conversation by dictating definitions and dismissing other's assessment of their own experience. Why should you get to do that? [/quote] I don’t know who you are, but I love you. Thank you, thank you, thank you.[/quote]
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