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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is a large increase in wastewater for the entire US including VA a large increase in hospitalizations and an increase in deaths from covid right now. This is the second largest wave since 2020. "You need the updated XBB.1.5 vaccine to be better protected against JN.1. A new study this week from Kaiser Permanente of Southern California and Pfizer shows that prior vaccinations do nothing to protect you against hospitalization with JN.1; only the updated XBB.1.5 vaccine does." This is an updated vaccine and NOT called a booster. It's an entire new shot. [url]https://drruth.substack.com/p/covid-news-and-more-123023[/url] CDC COVID Wasterwater results broken down by local watershed locations. Much easier to read in this format: [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/coronavirusVA/commen...a_as_of_dec_29_2023/[/url][/quote] The first set of citations are not from neutral sources: [b]1) The substack author is affiliated with a non-profit centered on "providing solutions for the prevention, diagnostics and treatment of the novel coronavirus". She is not a disinterested party. https://med.stanford.edu/profiles/ruth-crysta...ab=cap-profiles-home https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/202003...-COVID-19-Task-Force[/b] 2) The booster study was done by Pfizer and Kaiser and funded by Pfizer. Kaiser works closely with the CDC on covid policy and its Vaccine Study Center director presents at CDC ACIP covid meetings. https://divisionofresearch.kaiserpermanente.o...accine-study-center/ Covid hospitalizations and deaths remain at their lowest winter levels since covid emerged despite minimal uptake of the new booster.[/quote] Thank you for pointing this out. [b]There are many who have a vested interest in keeping the covid hysteria going[/b]. Add in Pfizer's interest in pushing testing. While they don't manufacture tests, they do have a stake in increased testing so they can try to offset slumping sales of Paxlovid. https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/pfizer-swings-quarterly-loss-due-paxlovid-write-off-2023-10-31/ [/quote] Who? Who are these mythical beings who just love the drama. Oh, wait... Unless you're implying everyone here asking folx to vax and mask is a pfizer shill, you're the one who seems invested in the drama. If you see covid precautions as "hysteria", log off and [b]go suck air indoors for a bit[/b]. Unmasked. For science. [/quote] So breathe while indoors? Surely you jest. I never breathe when I am inside. Do you sleep and eat in a mask in your own home? Because if you ever take your mask off anywhere, include your own home, YOU ARE SUCKING AIR INDOORS.[/quote] People invested in drama continue to post drama instead of acknowledging point, while calling others the drama. Typical DCUM. PP's point was basically "catch something", but you didn't even catch the point.[/quote] I mean, the point kind of is the mentally ill minority who seem to believe that BREATHING inside without a mask is akin to raw-dogging a stranger. It’s very hard to believe we gave these types any sort of influence during covid. [/quote] That’s honestly what they think. They’re calling it airborne HIV. [/quote] "They" again? cite it, PP. Otherwise "they" is just you, and the same 4-5 nutters on this board, acting like masks will kill you.[/quote] By “they,” I mean the Covid cautious brigade on X/Twitter. I’m completely fascinated by these people because someone I know in real life has gotten sucked in and has essentially blown up her life and cut off all friends and family in the name of staying “safe.” Nutters for sure. But there are way more than 4-5 of them. [/quote] Yes, I know people like this too. It's health anxiety that's morphed into full blown mental illness. I feel terrible for their children that have had a normal childhood and childhood experiences taken from them.[/quote] My kids travel, play sports, and have several extracurriculars each. They wear masks indoors. Nothing has been taken from them, unless you zealots make minding my kids' faces your business somehow and start some nonsense drama irl like you try here. They're fine. Leave them alone and you will be too. [/quote] DP. Your kids have been wearing masks indoors since march 2020? Like everywhere they go indoors, for almost 4 years? I’m actually curious because I had no idea people were doing that. In my world of working in person and sending kids to school, dcum is the only place Covid still exists.[/quote] I run HEPA filter Dyson fans in my house, and we don't usually mask at home. And yes, if we're indoors anywhere else, we mask, unless everyone has tested and the airflow is good. When my kid got covid, probably at public school, we all masked at home, and nobody else got it. We followed CDC protocol and masked everywhere, indoors and out, for the specified time. We only experienced this once (so far). I watch the numbers, and when there are surges/spikes, we mask more carefully, even outdoors. It's not a burden. Nearly half my family is medically sensitive, and covid/long covid could really hurt me personally. I run more careful than most, but I don't think it's unreasonable (though I'm sure it seems that way to the "shrug, whatever" crowd). People calling caution a mental illness and being sad for people like me and my family... are probably a bit unwell themselves, IMO. Nothing about what we do harms anyone, and it may help protect the people mocking us. Shrug. Whatever.[/quote] Masking outdoors? No, that's not necessary.[/quote] When my kid was positive, we considered it a kindness/courtesy that cost us nearly nothing, and could keep others safe. Do you, PP. Leave us alone.[/quote] Do you mean that you sent your kid to school????? And felt like it was OK because you sent her/they/him with a mask?[/quote] Better than keeping her home.[/quote] OUTRAGEOUS!!!!![/quote] I know. It's crazy that some people think you should keep kids locked up at home over a cold.[/quote] No, I meant it was outrageous that the previous poster sent her child to school with Covid thinking a mask was enough [/quote] What do you mean? It's extremely rare for kids to get seriously ill. For most, it's asymptomatic. For every kid in school that knows they have covid, there are probably 3 or 4 others that unknowingly have it.[/quote] This. Nobody's testing anymore, and only a handful of people mask. Hopefully nobody at home is young/old/ill/otherwise susceptible. This board reminds me how much people suck. [/quote] Yeah, so I don't understand why some people freak out over people continuing their activities after testing positive, or venturing out without masks. Those people aren't meaningfully changing your exposure to covid because they are dwarfed by the number of people that don't know they have covid. Realistically, all you can do is protect yourself according to own level of concern.[/quote] Indeed. It’s because people have little rational ability to understand risk. Also a subset of people adopted an identity related to covid as opposed to treating it like any other health risk. Pretty classic cognitive errors. [/quote] Yes, but it is unusual for people to continue to be so bad at understanding risk. It's a well- known phenomenon for people to grossly overestimate new risks, but we're going on 4 years now.[/quote] I think it has to do with pre-existing mental illness to be honest. At first people all went overboard. I remember cases of custody being taken away from doctor parents because of covid risk! The majority of people have a strong drive to adapt and that is what we did. I myself was forced to adapt by seeing how much my kid needed to socialize and a DH who refused to cater to my fears. Also I physically despise wearing masks! That helped. But there are still a small subset who have what probably amounts to a mental illness about it. [/quote] Your kid didn't NEED to socialize. You and they wanted to. You can spend time as a family. It sounds like there is mental health issues going on with you if you struggled that much. We had no problem with it and I will not take a shot to make someone like you happy to give you a false sense of security given the reaction I had, and when I always mask and still very careful. If you aren't careful, stop complaining already. You will get it and you will selfishly give it to someone like me.[/quote] "my kid needed to socialize" is the same nonsense as "we needed the holidays to be the way they always are" and "I needed to travel". It's "I want" masquerading as a need. But if you're not getting your shot, you can't yell at other people about being "very careful". Get your damned shot if you're concerned about it. [/quote] The shots don’t stop Covid. My parent died last fall and had the most recent shot. I mask, rarely go indoors anywhere except doctors appointments and don’t travel. Most of my shopping is online. I am as careful as you can get. If it does not stop transmission, then it’s not very helpful. Covid was far easier when I go it over the side effects for months from the shot. You want others to take the shot to justify your unwillingness to take any precautions even when sick. Masking, handwashing, staying home when sick is far more important. How does my taking the shot help me and my family? If I get sick for month's from the shot like I did before and cannot cook, clean, work, drive, are you willing to step in and help? No, of course not. [/quote]
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