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In the same way, an atheist can sense the moral law, understand it, live by it, all while denying its Author.  But the moral law could not exist without its Author.  The atheist is benefiting from the truth while refusing to acknowledge its source.[/quote]

Humans are primates. Morality derives from the evolution of primates. "Morality" is a group of behaviors that make it possible to live in a group -- [b]cooperation, kindness, empathy are all required for primates to live in a group[/b]. Humans have big brains and can extend those behaviors to larger groups through reason.  It has nothing to do with God.

You can deny evolution and psychology, shake your fist at it, but still understand it and live by it. 
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OK, put aside the question of whether God exists for a moment, and just think about the prima facie absurdity of this idea, that human beings need cooperation, kindness, and empathy to live in a group.

Think communist China.  Think Stalinist Russia.  Think the Roman Empire.  Think the US South before the Civil War.  Think of every example of genocide, slavery, oppression.  Think dictators, sociopaths, drug cartels, Sandusky, any example you wish.

Now think of natural selection, survival of the fittest, which is the supposed mechanism for the evolution of human morality.  Think of a few common expressions, like "good guys finish last," "all's fair in love and war," and such.

Bad human behavior is REWARDED, while good human behavior is the EXCEPTION.  If there is a natural, animalistic human moral code, then it is Machiavellian, or Lord of the Flies, or schoolyardish, or similarly brutal.  I can see horrible dictators throughout the world laughing at your statement as they eat the finest foods and indulge in the best pleasures this world has to offer while their subjects starve to death, are shot in the back of the head, or watch their children be taken away to sexual slavery.

Now back to the question of whether God exists.  The very fact that you can ponder which human behaviors are "right" and which are "wrong" points to the existence of an absolute standard, something beyond any one human, any one culture, any one human power.

God created evolution and psychology and the laws of physics and free will and the moral law.  The moral law is something we can violate, with different consequences from a violation of the law of gravity, but the consequences are just as inescapable.[/quote]

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