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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The reason the doors are significant is because it adds another layer of security. These are reinforced steel doors that open outward and are designed to resist being breached. Home doors that you see taken down with a battering ram fail at the lock when hit. Doors that swing outward are harder to breach because the entire frame supports the door from going inward.

The school also has a policy to lock doors during instruction and again, this policy was not followed. Why did the suspect skip four classrooms near the entrance and go to the two classrooms that he did? Likely because the four classrooms near the entrance were locked and the classrooms he went to were unlocked. The path of least resistance to his targets.

The layers of security (fence, exterior doors, and classroom doors) are not designed to stop an active shooter. They are designed to minimize the risks to the staff and students by delaying the active shooter from reaching them in the classroom. Had the exterior door been closed, most likely the shooter would have remained outside and encounter the responding law enforcement outside the building. This most likely would have limited the number of casualties inside the building.

Let's remove all the politics, gun laws, weapons, and active shooter from this scenario. If an unauthorized person outside the building entered a classroom in the same manner as this suspect and kidnapped a student instead, would your view of the locked doors now be different?

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There’s the ‘door propped’ peddler and the ‘mom blame’ peddler.

Both grasping for ways to distract focus from the real problems here.

1) Access to guns. 
2) Cowards that carry guns. [/quote]

Bizarre and stupid snark.

Reports have stated that the door was propped.  Very unfortunate.  Are you claiming that this wasn’t a factor?  To be clear: [b] guns are the overarching and most important problem by far.  [/b]I’d like to see the second amendment repealed.  The [b]other problem was obviously law enforcement.  [/b]Good guys [b]with guns who didn’t act correctly[/b] per the reports.

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You call my post bizarre and stupid, then go on to reiterate what I just said plus add your propped door agenda to it.

There are deliberate factors and there are everyday mistakes.

You are conflating a door being propped into the same category of the deliberate actions of purchasing an assault rifle to murder children. 
You are also conflating a propped door with the negligent actions of trained officers with guns that refused to help stop the massacre of children.

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There is no propped door agenda. It’s a fact show in video and still footage. It doesn’t matter if it was deliberate or not - it served as the point of entry. Once inside, he was able to barricade himself between two classroom and still keep an eye on both doors and peep windows. Like or or not, that’s what happened.[/quote]

Maybe since doors are the problem, we should ban them instead of guns.

Give it a rest.

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If school kidnappings were as rampant as school shootings, then you can use your dumb analogy.

Until then, your deflection and obsession with doors is showing disturbing OCD like mentality and your reasoning skills are impaired.

Take a nap. [/quote]

You have NO answer to the PP’s points, because they are all excellent. That door is critical because it was very hard to breach when closed. Your disturbing OCD like mentality about guns, Republicans, Trump, etc keeps you from seeing all other issues. Social media in this case played a HUGE issue. This could have been stopped in multiple ways before it even happened. Same as Sandy Hook.[/quote]

How do you know that door was hard to breach when it's closed?. Most doors can have locks that could shot off quite easily. No one is saying that the doors should have been open but that is not the only reason that shooter was able to get into that building. Again, he jumped a fence. He was motivated and would have gotten in through a window or shooting off a door lock. 
Guns are the issue. [/quote]

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