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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This shutdown will only help Trump in 2020.  He is willing to negotiate, the Dems say no and I predict not only does he win the electoral college, he gets the majority of the vote.  The Democratic party is being run by its fringe and America leans center right.[/quote]

Please indicate where he is willing to negotiate. TIA! [/quote]

He has said he is willing to negotiate many times ($2.5 billion instead of $5 billion, Steel slats, willing to open the govt and get the wall funding in 30 days).  Nancy said no, no, no.  This will help her base, but not flyover country who is more moderate.[/quote]

None of this is true. You are an idiot. He had the house two weeks ago. Why didn't the bill get passed then?[/quote]

See my above post about attacking the messenger.

Fun Fact:  You need 60 votes in the Senate (only 52 GOP Senators two weeks ago) to approve closure of an Appropriations Bill.[/quote]
The appropriations bill passed the Senate something like 96-0.  The House never put the bill for a vote, because it would have passed.  So this one is on the Republicans.[/quote]

The Senate Bill didn't have the border security in it.  The House did pass it with border funding but the Senate couldn't get the 60 votes before Christmas.  Your alternative facts are months earlier.[/quote]
Yes,  the Senate bill passed when Trump [b]suggested [/b]he would sign without the border funding,  but the House did not vote on it because Trump changed his mind before they could.  And you wonder why the Democrats don't trust Trump? [/quote]

The only thing Trump said is "we'll see" when it comes to the budget.  He never "suggested" he would sign and those in left complain that he changes his mind in his speech, but doesn't.  When he uses words like "we'll see" and "maybe" it means exactly that yet the left and media report otherwise.[/quote]
The entire Senate, Anne Coulter and Rush Limbaugh knew exactly what he meant and acted accordingly. Your the only who is trying argue after the fact that he meant something different.[/quote]

Not really arguing anything other than the man who penned "art of the deal" needs the other side to negotiate.  Keep the Government shut until the other side (Democrats) are willing to negotiate.  Just watched on C-Span the house floor debate between Hoyer and Scalise.  Scalise asked Hoyer to keep the House open this weekend, yet once again they adjourned until Monday, just like last weekend and the week Nancy and her family spent in Hawaii.
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The man who penned the art of the deal says Trump didn't write it.  And negotiation involves an exchange.  If he wants the wall, he has to give the Democrats something they want in return.  He actually did that back in February, but the  reneged.  He had reneged on deals many times in his career.  But that was always after he got what he wanted and didn't need his partners anymore because he already moved on to his next sucker.  This time, he reneged before he got what he wanted and he can't change partners.  Which is why we are stuck here today.  There's an obvious solution but he won't take it because he doesn't want to give anything up in exchange for the wall.  He'd rather force it than make a deal, and that's exactly what he is saying right now.   [/quote]

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