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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Clinton was well rehearsed, prepared, polished.  It was a show.  However, Trump was sincere and I am curious about NATO funding as well as NATO anti-terror.

Trump was right.  http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/08/news/nato-summit-spending-countries/

Localities and crime.  Is NYC safer than pre-Guiliani days?  Yes.  Have we let down our cities ?   Yes.  No one deserves to live in these conditions in Chicago.  So why did many AA's move to cities in the North like Detroit and Chicago?  Jobs.

Trump was too polite.  Ford is moving production of specific vehicles to Mexico - 2800 jobs but says those 2800 jobs will be replaced with other jobs in Michigan.  Now why not have the 2800 jobs + 2800 NEW jobs in Michigan?

NAFTA.  Personally I'd rather have factories and unions and products produced in the USA than continue as we have been.  Moosehead {ME}, Surefit {PA}, Carrier{IN}.  Loss of manufacturing jobs.  It all adds up.

Crash-bundled loans that were based on prior mortgage underwriting standards.  Fine to bundle when they were good loans.  Severe disconnect.

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What I don't understand is how he plans to force businesses to have jobs in this country and why he suddenly thinks that's a good idea. I thought business people were all about bottom line and free trade and job creation. He certainly has enough enterprises overseas. Why is he against regulation businesses to make sure they have fair practices, but for forcing businesses to stay in this country if they can perform better overseas? Why, if he feels so strongly about this, has he not made it a practice in his own dealings? If it's such an important issue, and he makes so much money, he could afford the financial hit he would take by doing so -- he would still make money hand over fist, just not quite as much. Why hasn't he been a leader on this important issue?[/quote]
Yep   I was thinking the same[/quote]

Trump is not articulate and he is not effective at translating realities of international trade into terms that the average American can appreciate. I don't have experience exporting to/from Mexico and Canada, but I know the trade between US and China is not fair and open. Whereas it is relatively easy to export goods from China to the US, the reverse flow is excruciatingly difficult. The tariff rates are high, and Chinese customs makes it very difficult for a shipment to clear customs and be released. We are a US business that has tried for the past three years to sell our products into the Chinese market and has found it very tough to get traction because our products are no longer competitive in terms of pricing and speed to delivery by the time we hop over the great wall of China Customs. On the other hand, I can have a container full of whatever commodity loaded and shipped on a vessel bound for the US in probably 3 days, knowing that US customs will clear it quickly/efficiently as long as all my paperwork is done properly.

As a business that sells to international customers, I am all for free and open trade, but it has to be actual free and open bilaterally. All too often, the US holds up their end of the bargain but the other side does not. This happens in international trade and security, with US ending up carrying the bulk of the burden. Enough is enough. [/quote]

How do you think this can be changed? China is offering its huge market to American companies. You think it is a win-win if China decides NOT to allow US companies to sell in its market. USA will collapse if china does that.

Also how many Chinese companies are selling in the USA? Can you name any? China can make the argument that US blocks entry of Chinese companies into the USA. China offers a huge infrastructure and scale for American companies to make anything in china IN EXCHANGE for access to its huge market.

US being a much smaller market is the real weakness here that nobody wants to address. This is the natural order of things and this is the reason why China has been an economic giant most of human history and has now reclaimed its top spot.

What cards does the USA have to play with the Chinese? China holds over 1 trillion $ of American debt. The dollar will collapse if they start selling or stop buying US debt. We are a profligate nation that spends money it borrows on needless wars and oil wars of the past.

We as a people are profligate people with less that 5% savings. Chinese save over 30%. So china has much more cash to invest in future. If US has that high a percent of savings we can deploy that money to fund infrastructure growth. But no, instant gratification rules. [/quote]

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