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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Well, all those rural and small town voters in Texas, Missouri, Indiana and elsewhere will be reaping the whirlwind in the years ahead. 17 million of them are about to lose their health insurance. Rural hospitals will be closing. Their monthly energy bills will be skyrocketing. Alternative energy jobs are gone. I have no idea how small town America is going to make it through. Plus, while markets may be up, the value of the dollar has declined by 15 percent since Trump took office, which is far more impactful to rural America than those with a 401k account. For the farmers, their source of labor is gone. They are either getting deported or they're not crossing the border to begin with. Plus Republicans have wrecked their ag markets with their dumb trade wars. And obviously any rural voter that voted over the deficit has clearly been hoodwinked. Republicans just added another $3.3 trillion of debt.

These voters will be very reachable in 2028. We are here today because Democrats anointed a deeply unpopular 83 year old geriatric as their candidate. And followed up at the last minute with a deeply unpopular VP who couldn't even make it to the Iowa caucuses when she ran, much less win Iowa. This would be a very different America if Democrats actually had an open primary. We'll see what Democrats do this time. The path is cleared for them. But if they continue to roll with their corrupt and cynical old guard - like Pelosi, Schumer, the Clintons - or embrace the wealthy dilettante progressives like Mamdani in NYC - they will still lose even in the face of idiocy of the GOP. This is the moment for Democrats. And I am not optimistic.

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It all depends how you look at it.

Millions will lose Medicaid.  Do the people that pay the bills for it via federal taxes and matching state taxes want to pay for health insurance for complete strangers?  You seem to think they are OK with getting less in their pay check for one of your dreams, hopes and aspirations.

I'm not so sure.  All you seem to care about is shifting burdens of others to the middle class for health care, education, climate initiatives to make you feel better and you basically have a robin hood view of the world.  That's ALL that seems to drive you. Hint: your view isn't everyone's view.[/quote]

You will pay more, how do you think healthcare providers offset the cost of treating people without insurance? Because they still end up in the ER, ICU, etc. and they still get treatment. More expensive treatment if they stop getting primary care. We don't just wheel uninsured stroke patients outside and dump them in a pit somewhere. [/quote]

Ok Jan.[/quote]

What PP said is perfectly correct.  Do you not understand how the healthcare system works?[/quote]

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