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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Other than depression an anxiety, she didn't have any of these. Are we now claiming that all persons with depression and anxiety are psychotic?

https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/understanding-psychosis#:~:text=Symptoms%20of%20psychosis%20include%20delusions,is%20inappropriate%20for%20the%20situation.

What are the signs and symptoms of psychosis?
Typically, a person will show changes in his or her behavior before psychosis develops. Behavioral warning signs for psychosis include:

Sudden drop in grades or job performance
New trouble thinking clearly or concentrating
Suspiciousness, paranoid ideas, or uneasiness with others
Withdrawing socially, spending a lot more time alone than usual
Unusual, overly intense new ideas, strange feelings, or no feelings at all
Decline in self-care or personal hygiene
Difficulty telling reality from fantasy
Confused speech or trouble communicating
Symptoms of psychosis include delusions (false beliefs) and hallucinations (seeing or hearing things that others do not see or hear). Other symptoms include incoherent or nonsense speech and behavior that is inappropriate for the situation. A person in a psychotic episode also may experience depression, anxiety, sleep problems, social withdrawal, lack of motivation, and difficulty functioning overall.[/quote]

That is an absurd attempt at a gotcha question, like all of them here so far.

You're posting two things here: the first, a list of "behavioral warning signs" (which are typically, but not always, present in psychosis). It includes eight phenomena that also commonly occur in people with depression or anxiety diagnoses and with PPD/PPA. If she was diagnosed with depression or anxiety or PPD/PPA and put on this cocktail of meds, it strongly suggests that at least some of those eight phenomena were present. In fact, the more extreme "warning signs" having been present here under the umbrella of a depression or anxiety diagnosis would explain a lot about why the prescribing physician was cycling so rapidly through different medication options, because things like difficulty telling reality from fantasy would be almost or actually psychotic depression, which is a life-threatening medical emergency.

The other thing you're posting is a list of the symptoms of psychosis. They do not all have to be present for the person to be psychotic under the DSM definition. She may have become psychotic for the first time on the day of this event, or she may have been psychotic and hiding it (which is also extremely common). [/quote]

I posted one thing. A continuous cut and paste from the link I posted. From the NIH.

She will be declared fit to stand trial because that only refers to her ability to understand the legal proceedings and assist in her defense. If she and her attorney then decide to go for an insanity defense at the time of the murders, they will need to offer proof that is not just "well, my client says she was crazy when it happened and she's really sorry."

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This isn't about fitness to stand trial. It's about whether they can prove her guilty of murder, a crime that has malice aforethought as an element. [/quote]

https://dictionary.law.com/default.aspx?selected=1198#:~:text=malice%20aforethought,for%20the%20lives%20of%20others.
She definitely had malice aforethought. When you strangle someone with an exercise band for several minutes, you definitely know they are going to to die. [/quote]

Especially when you just did it to the first one and saw what happened. FFS.[/quote]

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