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[quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]^why are you listing sharia laws? They will never be implemented here. You are paranoid.[/quote] There are already sharia courts in the UK. And i didnt say anywhere they will be implemented here though i have no doubt that is what those who follow these ideas/laws really want to happen in the US[/quote] There are not sharia courts in the UK. Are you the same poster who spread this lie in an earlier thread? There are "Sharia Councils" that offer family mediation and arbitration and have no ability to make legal rulings. We have similar services in the US offered by other religions. [/quote] Tribunals enforced by the courts in the UK ISLAMIC law has been officially adopted in Britain, with sharia courts given powers to rule on Muslim civil cases. The government has quietly sanctioned the powers for sharia judges to rule on cases ranging from divorce and financial disputes to those involving domestic violence. Rulings issued by a network of five sharia courts are enforceable with the full power of the judicial system, through the county courts or High Court. Previously, the rulings of sharia courts in Britain could not be enforced, and depended on voluntary compliance among Muslims. It has now emerged that sharia courts with these powers have been set up in London, Birmingham, Bradford and Manchester with the network's headquarters in Nuneaton, Warwickshire. Two more courts are being planned for Glasgow and Edinburgh. http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/Migration/article235989.ece [/quote] The problem with relying on an article written in 2008 is that there has been plenty of time for it to be debunked. As it happens, that one was debunked almost immediately: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/lawreports/joshuarozenberg/2957692/What-can-sharia-courts-do-in-Britain.html [quote]The report produces no evidence to suggest that the Government has sanctioned any powers for sharia judges at all, quietly or otherwise. And a sharia court in Britain has no power to grant a divorce that is valid in English law.[/quote] [quote]Divorce is a matter of personal status. There is a fundamental difference between questions of status — which are for the state to decide — and disputes between individuals, which they may resolve as they wish. If individuals or companies are unable to settle their differences and do not wish to begin legal proceedings, they can agree to have their disputes resolved by an arbitrator, a sort of private judge. Unless there are procedural irregularities, the arbitrator’s decision — known as an award — will be enforced in the same way as a court ruling.[/quote] [quote] A woman, it explains, can “get a divorce in the civil courts but her husband may continue to deny her the religious divorce. As a result she may feel unable to re-marry because the community still regard her as being married”. The same problem can arise under Jewish law, where the woman is known as an agunah —meaning “chained” or “anchored” wife.[/quote] These so-called MATs are variations of the Sharia Council idea. They are simply an alternative means of arbitration or mediation for civil disputes and personal family issues. [/quote]
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