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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am not saying what the officer in this case did is right (though give him a hearing) but  I do give police in general support. They are public servants, but the job they do merits support and respect. We will continue to see individual acts forever. Its not the goal, its reality.  The only change will be institutional and that is not up to individual police to implement systemic changes so put the pressure on politicians and give the police support for the difficult, brave job most do every day.[/quote]

If police officers were EVER held liable for their actions, these "individual acts" would dry up in a hot second.  The individual acts are just symptoms of a system that values Black lives so low, that we don't hold police officers accountable for snuffing them out. [/quote]

I disagree with you. Sorry. For one, they are held liable, They go in front of a judge or jury. Some are found guilty, some are not. That's being held liable.
As to valuing lives so low--yes, one incident in a country of 350million makes it look that way.  Even 10 incidents.  But if you look at the big picture I am not sure you can statistically make the case.

Good policing is good policing--and will impact all lives. I would start with the institution (there was a great op ed on this in the Post today; I disagree with parts of it--but the approach seems sound) and work backwards.

In the meantime, I need police in my life more than I don't need them. Sorry, that's a fact.  It's like the argument people make about illegal immigrants--what if they all disappeared? What if the police all disappeared? Sorry. Not good.

I am very sorry for this man; I am So thankful he survived. I think there is clearly systemic change and supports (note that word--support) that should be added in.  I will not blame all police.[/quote]
nobody blamed all police. I agree with the PP who called you a halfwit[/quote]

awesome. way to productively move the conversation forward. My orginal point, which caused so much consternation, and which I think is valid,  is that each of these incidents is shocking horrid horrid.. But overall police do fantastic work and deserve our support. Last, there are valid reasons to ask for systemic change. Screaming fry em like bacon is not the way to get it. It may feel good, but it won't accomplish much.  Smart advocacy, being empathetic to the risky job police do, and thoughtful suggestions (I've heard a few here) will help. BLM wants revolution. I am advocating transformation.   But go ahead, be all Micheel Rhee about it. All the police will quit and where will we be?[/quote]

For Pete's sake. Nobody in this thread advocated revolution, and it's ridiculous to think all police are going to quit. You are coming across as tone-deaf, to put it mildly, with your continued droning on about "supporting the police." I will be thrilled when I see some real efforts at police reform and I will support the hell out of that. You sound like that bullshit "support the troops" crap we were given while Bush was force-feeding us a false war. It is not a binary choice where we have to choose police or black lives.[/quote]

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