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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So would Trump ban immigrants from Belgium?[/quote]

If they come from Belgium, they would be political refugees escaping the Muslims who have overtaken their country.[/quote]

But there have been terrorist acts committed by Belgian citizens, so his current proposal would mean a ban on all immigrants from Belgium.

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They were Muslim Belgium citizens that were second generation immigrants. The problem lies with the second generation being radicalized as the Paris, Boston, La, Orlando, and Brussels attacks all were orchestrated by Muslim second generation immigrants that became radicalized. It could happen here in the US too just as it has happened in Europe. The parents are okay but their children become radicalized. Do your research and see for yourself the direct link. [/quote]

I agree.  So maybe the issue is they are not assimilating.  What do we (and Europe) do about that?[/quote]
One obviously easy thing is this:  don't have a president who spews hate speech, and generalizes a whole group of people and religion based on the bad actions of a few.  A lot of these people who become radicalized do so because they are marginalized in society, and/or have some mental issues.  A popular leader who incites his supporters to hatred is going to marginalize these Muslims even further.   Most of our political leaders, both GOP and Dems, realize this.  [/quote]

They are CHOOSING not to assimilate. So [b]we say nothing about it[/b], don't enforce rules, don't rock that boat and they will now assimilate? [/quote]

We're saying plenty about it: we are an open tolerant society.

What rules are we not enforcing?!  What boat aren't we rocking?![/quote]
+1 Last time I checked, this country was a democracy, and we can choose to assimilate or not.  What you ^PP are looking for is a homogenous culture/society.  I think you will need to move to a different country with very tight immigration control, like Russia maybe, too find this.

Also, the FL shooter was American born. How was he *choosing* to not assimilate?  The pix I saw of him and his ex-wife looked like a typical Westerner. He didn't have a long beard, wearing traditional Afghan clothing; she wasn't wearing a burqa.  He chose to follow the religion of his parents.  Should we force all immigrants to follow Christianity or no religion at all?  Should force all immigrants to wear certain clothing, listen to certain music?

I think the FL shooter was full of hate to begin with, maybe self hatred since news stories are insinuating he was gay.  I think he would've done something terrible regardless of his religion.  I read one story where he was abusive to his ex wife just after they got married.  Are all spouse abusers radical muslims? No.

I think assimilating in the US should mean that you hold the values of the Constitution and our laws.  Everything else should be left to the individual.  Isn't that why this country was founded? Isn't that the basis of our country?   If you want immigrants and their offsprings to only follow *your* version of America, then we need to change the Constitution.[/quote]

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