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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We discussed some of this on the other thread. Romans I refers to "the lust in their hearts." As others have said, this could refer to almost anything, including lust for worldly goods or sex outside of marriage. Putting a homosexuality connotation on the English translation into "lust" seems dangerous. In Corinthians I, Paul talks generally about our bodies and specifically about prostitutes and general "immorality." Again, you can claim Romans and Corinthians are referring to homosexuality, based on your own assumption that "Jesus must have said that homosexuality is bad." For many of us, though, without an explicit mention from Jesus in the gospels, this too seems like a reach. The only mention of "sodomites" is in Timothy. As somebody else posted at 21:27 on page 1 of this thread, most modern scholars do not consider Timothy to have been written by Paul. [/quote] Paul explicitly tells us: “God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error,” (Rom. 1:26–27).[/quote] Exactly. He also says this in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11: "Or [i]do you not know[/i] that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolators, [i]nor men who practice homosexuality[/i], nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Chris and by the Spirit of our God." And in 1 Timothy 1:8-11, he writes, "Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, [i]the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality[/i], enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine, in accordance with the gospel of glory of the blessed God [i]with which I have been entrusted[/i]." And there's that pesky "with which I have been entrusted" part exactly after delineating what THE LAW is, this being the law of God, not Paul's own advice. It's easy to make the text say anything you want (or not say anything you don't want) if you don't actually pay any attention to what the text says.[/quote]
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