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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]18.29 - but please explain to me (I'm asking nicely, no snark) why 1) the necessity of the body of Christ on the cross and on necklaces; 2) the statues that do indeed adorn Catholic churches- I do see these as graven images; 3) the Saints - no mention in the bible; 4) the adoration or worship or whatever you want to call it of Mary - also not in the ible so I just don't get it - people says she's "revered not worshipped" - I don't undersand the difference; 5) and how do the saints and Mary intercede?  That's not in the bible either.  I guess I don't buy Transsubstantiation either so I'm probably a hopeless protestant but am curious.
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18:29 here. You say no snark but your post is dripping in it even if that was not your intention. 
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1) the necessity of the body of Christ on the cross and on necklaces[/b]
As I said our our year, our week and our mass are a reflection of the life and death of Christ (even our hours and days if you want to get really old school). Especially His death and sacrifice. The Crucifix is a symbol of this and a reminder. I've never met a catholic wearing a Crucifix that wasn't in a Holy Order. If you mean on the Rosary well, again, the mysteries all reflect the life and death of Christ. 
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2) the statues that do indeed adorn Catholic churches- I do see these as graven images[/b]
That is okay if you see these as graven images, you are not Catholic, but it doesn't make you right. Everything in a Catholic church is there for a reason and its been that way for a very very very long time. Most are visual aids because very few people could read at the times churches were being established. That is why we have so many symbols. That is why the stations of the cross have images and not just "Jesus falls the second time". Mary and Joseph are represented because they tell the story of Jesus' life. Every single thing in a Catholic church tells a part of or is a symbol of that story.

[b]3) the Saints - no mention in the bible[/b]
As I said before Catholics don't put a lot of stock in the Old Testament. And Saints are mentioned in the bible, both the word and the people themselves.[i] For the equipping of the [/i]saints[i] for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ - Ephesians 4:12[/i].  Saint derives from the Greek word for holy and set apart. Christians are called saints because they are called to live "set apart" and followers of Christ are called to be holy. The New testament is almost entirely made up of books by Saints. So I am confused by your question.

[b]4) the adoration or worship or whatever you want to call it of Mary - also not in the ible so I just don't get it - people says she's "revered not worshipped" - I don't undersand the difference;[/b]
No snark right?  :wink: 
Mary is venerated. Venerated means: regard with great respect. Respect means: a feeling of deep admiration for someone. Worship (in the context of Christianity) means: reverent honor and homage paid to God

Why do Catholics respect Mary, who by the way was always shown great respect and reverence in the bible? God sent the Savior through her. Bottom line - but theres more. She was the first to witness a miracle by Jesus and it was at her request. Catholics believe John (and all the apostles) represents all the people of the Church. As Christ struggled on the cross he took the time to give her to him or to us. "Behold your son" "Here is your mother" I can go on here but this is getting long. 
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5) and how do the saints and Mary intercede?  That's not in the bible either. [/b] 
They speak your need to God the intervene on your behalf. Mary's intercession is in the bible by the way. Wedding at Cana. That said, again, Catholics are not bible literalists. After the time in the bible there is a great deal of Christian history.

[b]Bonus)[/b] I guess I don't buy Transsubstantiation either so I'm probably a hopeless protestant but am curious.

Transubstantiation. You don't have to buy it or any Catholic teaching as it isn't your faith. It isn't how you worship God. Catholics believe that the apostles represent all of Christ's followers they were just His first. When He performed the miracles at the Last Supper he gave His body and blood to His followers. We believe that this takes place again during weekly communion. We believe in the real presence of Christ. His real presence is there in the church. It is my personal reason for veiling as it is my personal way to show humility before the real presence of God.

I hope that helped.

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